Another what is this vintage cue post..... burton spain looking forearm

Beebop21

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Any guesses what this is?

I read somewhere that Adam and a company called KPS made blanks modeled after Burtain Spain, is this one of those?

The points are not very even, ~ 1/4" variance. The wrap seems decent quality. There is a lot of bulging in the pearl rings.

I have ruled out most reputable builders from the period.......MAYBE Rich Q Corp out of New York? I have not been able to find anything that looks like this in their catalog images I can find.

Any other guesses? Some department store import line?

Thanks for any input.
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measureman

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Karl Mayer was from N.J. and I only saw a few of his cues but that has a Mayer look to it.
Could be an Asian import also but the pin should narrow it down.
Very well could be an early Adam cue.
I really have no good idea,but I like the cue.
 

Beebop21

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Karl Mayer is interesting. I know nothing about his work beyond the high-level biographical info in the blue book, and there don't seem to be very many images of his cues online, considering how long he was doing it.

I crossed him off the list originally as the pin and buttcap seemed wrong, and because every one of his cues I had seen the shaft pilot was all metal.

Searching more, I did find one solid example of a Mayer cue with the same shaft pilot. It also seems consistent with Mayer that the cue was in a period-correct case branded by a Philadelphia company.

But the pin and buttcap still seem wrong: the pin I don't recollect seeing before on anything import or domestic, the pointed pins I recall seeing have been brass. And it's some odd thread....it's narrower diameter, .304". And the buttcap is flat-faced just screwed into wood.....not sure that's something Mayer would have ever done if coming out of the Paradise/Palmer tree.

I guess it's hard to view much as very definitive when these builders worked over the course of decades, in a period where they might use whatever components they could find. And maybe it's been worked on or had parts replaced...

Thanks all, I appreciate you taking the time to look it over and chime in.

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garczar

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That pointed pin screams Asian import to me. BTW, KPS is the company that makes Falcon,Bear and used to make a lot of Predator stuff before they left Canada.
 

Beebop21

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Sorry @ideologist .......by "spain looking" I was really just thinking of the black/orange/green/natural stack of veneers, and who would have made such blanks back then.

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ideologist

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Sorry @ideologist .......by "spain looking" I was really just thinking of the black/orange/green/natural stack of veneers, and who would have made such blanks back then.

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The Asian imports copied a lot of US cues. Brunswick style, Spain, whatever they could get their hands in to reverse engineer

Adam made blanks like this, so did Taiwan factories
 

PDX

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I just noticed the aluminum pilot. I’d look at older National and Gandy catalogs. Or maybe an old AE Schmidt catalog.
 

cueman

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Looks like Adam to me. Maybe made for some other private label company.
 
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