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I bought this table several days ago from a person who claims he bought it form a guy named Danny Vegh who owned a billiard supply business in Cleveland Ohio who in turn had bought from a pool room that was going out of business. Supposedly a brunswick but I can't find any identifying marks so to speak other than the number 77503 thats on all parts except rails and slate. The rails bolt from the side into the slate so I'm assuming its an antique but the sub rails have been butchered and then covered up with laminate boards. I guess my question is can anybody tell me what model table this is and if I decide to keep it can I have new rails built that would restore the look of original table. Thank you.
 

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What you have is a vintage (perhaps antique) "Frankentable"

The slate and rails are from a different table. Looks like they had to re-drill the rail bolt entries. :yikes:

Call me crazy, but it doesnt look like an actual Brunswick to me.
One way to tell is, if it were, you'd see numbers punched into the top frame (that the slate sits on) at each pocket, for matching up each rail with its proper location.

Replacement rails can be fabricated...but as you might suspect, the carpenter will need some very accurate measurements of the table to get them right. Much caution advised.

Good luck

PS. No table nameplate on the rail?
 
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Thanks for your help, I was afraid that parts had been combined to make this table, but i'm only out 200.00 so as far as lessons are concerned this one wasn't too bad.
 
gee wiz, if you could only find a skilled billiard table mechanics to offer you some assistance with fixing it ... but where do you find one of those?...;)
cough cough hint hint
 
I went back and looked at the top frame and it actually does have the numbers 1-6 stamped on it so maybe it is a bwick after all, I'm going to look the slate over and see if I can find anything else that might help.
 
Just so you know, Brunswick wasn't the only one to use that numbering system...so the numbers alone might not prove anything. The same applies to the serial numbers as well. Many companies numbered their table parts to keep track of what part went with what table. (very handy for a room with 20+ tables to re-cover)

Sounds like you are still concerned with getting a positive ID?
If so, talk to a professional antique billiard table restorer like Ken or Derrick. They can ID it for you.

Ken = Cbilliards@aol.com
Derrick= Derrick@billiardrestoration.com

On another note - don't feel bad if it's not a Brunswick. There were many great table makers back in the day, Brunswick just happens to be the one you hear about most.
 
The etch lines indicate a Bwick Madison but that table had square legs - unlike the flared legs in your pic.
If I had to guess I'd say it's not a Bwick. Is it 2pc or 3pc slate?

If the rails themselves are in decent shape you can cutoff and replace the subrail portion. I'd agree tho that
those rails probably are not original to the table considering that the rail bolt holes look doctored.

And BTW, Danny Veghs is a known dealer with several locations in Ohio.
Kathy Vegh is on the board of directors of the BCA
 
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