Any tips on how to improve position play?

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I have been playing pool all my life. However, I just started playing seriously 3 months ago. I have always been a very acurate shot maker. However, I have no clue how to play position at all. That is why I have always been a pretty decent 8 Ball player, and why I suck at 9 Ball. However, I wish to improve my 9 Ball game. So, I was wondering if you had any practice tips on how to work on playing position.

Since I am basically a beginner, I am only starting to learn how to use english, so any tips you could give me would be a big help.

Thanks for any help you can give me!!
 
get phil cappelle's book: Play Your Best Straight Pool or Play Your Best 9-Ball.

Both cover position play.

But those are just for the times when you're NOT playing.

When you are, this is what I do (and have been doing for 6 months, since I started wanting to become much better):

set the table up with two balls plus the cue ball, the objects anywhere you want. give yourself ball in hand. shoot whichever ball you want from wherever you choose. at first, just shoot it naturally, however you might want to, as a shotmaker. shoot it a few times from the same position. each time, take note of how the cue ball travels on that shot, relative to your angle, english, follow, etc, that you naturally played with. pay attention to where the cue ball ends up in relation to the object ball, but don't worry about it. just keep the relationship in your head.

next, start trying to tweak the shot a little bit so you can try to HIT the second ball. mess around with different spins and stuff. you'll end up finding ways of HITTING the second ball.

next, place a third object ball on the table from a place where you'd like the cue to be for a good shot on the second ball. shooting the same shots as before, try to experiment until you can drop the first ball and gently hit the third ball so the cue ball ends up right where the third ball was.

once you've done this for a couple of hours, you'll have a basic feel for each type of hit on that one shot, which can carry over to all other shots, in some way. do this drill once per week.

some people might tell you to first read up on the theory behind everything, then to try this type of drill, but i found that doing it in that order caused me to learn at the table by THINKING instead of learning by FEELING. instead of focusing on FIRST dropping the ball in question and THEN on position, I would just overthink the position play and often miss the primary shot...

also, i would end up frustrated that the theories weren't working for me. instead, by switching to the 'exploratory' method, i never had anything to get frustrated about. instead, i just tried things and watched what happened, learning as i went along.

eventually, you'll start stringing more and more balls together (starting out with 3, 4, 5, etc)

as you will read, good position requires you to think a few balls ahead, but remember - you're always just trying to get the cue ball to the NEXT position.

you have to know what that position should be, but aside from that, act like each shot is your next-to-last shot in a $10,000 game and you'll learn a lot about how YOU shoot, what YOUR habits are, and not focus so much on what the books say...
 
The 2 ball practice routine suggested above is a good way to practice. However, if I were you, I'd practice controlling my draw, stop and follow first. Don't use any english, side spin, yet. Learn to control draw, stop and follow first. Put an object ball next to a rail at a diamond. Put the cue ball one diamond away from it. Practice drawing the cue ball back one diamond, then two diamonds, etc. Do the same thing with follow. Also, practice stopping the cue ball from different distances from the object ball, one diamond, two diamonds, etc. Once you feel you're getting good at controlling the cue ball, start the two object ball drills. After a while, add another object ball. Good luck!
 
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play the OB to the corner pocket to position the CB to every diamond on the table. as you get better, you will use less force.
 
practice like the guy said until you know where the cue ball is going after the hit with no english on it. Then start fooling around with low, high, right and left and get some idea of how thy change things. You might just set up a simple cut and keep shooting it with different english and different ball speeds to see where it ends up.

A pool teacher like Scott Lee wouldn't hurt.

Bert Kinister's 60minute workout is pretty good for position play.

Target Pool is a good learning tool.

Good Luck
 
Understanding the tangent and the diamond system will help very much.
 
Good point Sputnik. One way to learn the tangent line is to practice 8 ball or 9 ball using the object ball to shoot into the cue ball to pocket the object ball. Sounds weird but it is a very good drill to learn the path a ball takes after it hits another ball.
 
THE PRO BOOK by Henning

Get yourself a copy of this book. Beats the h*ll out of Cappelli's book in certain ways and I mean it. You'll see dramatic improvement inside of a week if you do.

THE PRO BOOK will improve your stroke.

Cappelli's book will improve your overall strategy.
 
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get a hold of Buddy Hall, he plays closer to the ball &more consistant than all the rest. he's well known for good position play.
blud
 
I found that I learned best by watching (really WATCHING) the best players at my local pool rooms. Watching where they struck the cue ball on every shot and where it left the ball afterwards. The previously mentioned drill (with NO side english) is a great place to start. (IMO)
 
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