Anyone ever play BOTTLE POOL?

candyman

Matt Heath
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Just wondering exactly how it is set up and played.

I have seen different point systems, but would like to know where you start from and what is the exact object to knock the bottle over. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks Matt.
 
I grew up playing the game, it's my favorite. Below are some rules I came across a couple of months ago.

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TYPE OF GAME
Bottle Pocket is among the few games that combine the objectives of Carom Billiards and Pocket Billiards. It is a unique game in the it uses a leather "shaker bottle" in addition to normal pocket billiard balls.

PLAYERS
Two, or more, individuals or teams.

EQUIPMENT USED
Object balls numbered 1-2, plus the cue ball, and a "shake" bottle.

OPENING SETUP
The opening setup of the game has the 1-ball frozen to the foot cushion one diamond from the left foot pocket, the 2-ball frozen to the foot cushion one diamond from the right foot pocket, and the shaker bottle placed upside down on the center spot.

OBJECT OF THE GAME
To score 31 points before your opponent(s).

SCORING
Shooter can only score on legal strokes. Points can be scored by either pocketing a numbered ball (point value of ball sunk), by caroming both numbered ball with the cue ball (1 pt), caroming the cue ball off an object ball and knocking the bottle over (5 pts). If the cue ball caroms off of an object ball and knocks the bottle so it stands base down (right side up) on the bed of the table the shooter automatically wins the game.

It is possible to get up to 9 points per inning by sinking both object balls, caroming off of both object balls, and knocking the bottle over (on the same stroke).

If a player scores more than 31-points his score will become the amount he went over 31 by, and his inning is over. (Example: shooter starts with 30 and sinks the 2-ball on a legal shot - his turn is over and he now has 1 point.)

OPENING THE GAME
The game starts with the first shooter having cue ball in the kitchen. At least one of the objects balls must be hit for a legal opening shot (the bottle can not be legally struck before an object ball is contacted). Failure to execute a legal opening shot allows option of accepting table as it sits after the shot or having the opening player open the game again.

RULES OF PLAY
Shooter continues at table until: he fails to execute a legal shot, contacts the bottle with an object ball (before the cue ball, after contacting an object ball, contacts the bottle), drives the bottle off of the bed of the table, or exceeds 31-points.

It is a foul to upset the bottle with an object ball.

It is a foul if the cue ball contacts the bottle before the cue ball has contacted an object ball.

An object ball must be contacted on each stroke, and either the object ball, another object ball, or the cue ball, must reach a cushion after the cue ball object ball contact. Failure to do so is a foul.

SPOTTING THE BOTTLE
The bottle is "spotted" before the next shot anytime it is knocked over. This is done by placing the bottle upside down as close to where the opeing came to rest as possible,

If the bottle came to rest off of the table it is spotted on the center spot. If the center spot is blocked then spot on the head spot; if the head spot is blocked then spot on the foot spot; if the foot spot is occupied then keep out of play until the center spot is open.

ILLEGALLY POCKET BALLS
Are spotted (without additional penalty) as described below.

JUMPED OBJECT BALLS
Are spotted (without penalty) as described below.

CUE BALL AFTER SCRATCH OR JUMPING OFF TABLE
Shooter's inning is over, a fould is marked, and incoming player will put cue ball in play from kitchen.

SPOTTING OBJECT BALLS
Any pocketed balls are spotted, prior to the next shot, in the position they occupied at the start of the game. If that spot is blocked then the center spot is used, if the center spot is blocked then the head spot is used. If both balls need to be spotted then the 1-ball is spotted first.

PENALTY FOR FOULS
One point is deducted from offending player's score.

LOSS OF GAME
The game is lost if a player fouls in three consecutive inngs.
 
There was a NY Times article on it on Aug 26. It described it well enough for me to get a reasonable understanding of the game.
 
Thanks so much for the reply, we are going to try to play it tonight. It sounds like it would be alot of fun..

Matt
 
The rules I posted above are very close to how I remember the game, I haven't played it in more then 20 years but would love to find someone in my area that would interested. The only difference I remember is you could not have 11 points, ever, if you landed on 11 points during the game you went back to 0. This may have been a rule my Uncle inserted for his enjoyment but it adds another obstacle along the way.

Let me know if you have any questions after you play it, this is one of the few things I remember from 20+ years ago.

Enjoy

BK
 
Hey BillyKoda,
I also played it quite a bit as a kid. Grew up on the coast of Mass, in Gloucester. When we got bored with straight, 3 rail billiards and 8 ball we played bottle pool. I think you got the rules pretty straight. I wonder if it was just played up north mostly, kinda like candlepin bowling. Used to do that all the time also..
Dan
 
I bought a beautiful leather bottle with the numbered pills inside when I was in "The States" last, because it was attractive, but I've not played with them once since I've been back here. Shame! The rules look fun though - I might have to give it a go!
 
quedup said:
Hey BillyKoda,
I also played it quite a bit as a kid. Grew up on the coast of Mass, in Gloucester. When we got bored with straight, 3 rail billiards and 8 ball we played bottle pool. I think you got the rules pretty straight. I wonder if it was just played up north mostly, kinda like candlepin bowling. Used to do that all the time also..
Dan

I played it growing up in Oklahoma City on a 10' snooker table.
 
Big Dave said:
I bought a beautiful leather bottle with the numbered pills inside when I was in "The States" last, because it was attractive, but I've not played with them once since I've been back here. Shame! The rules look fun though - I might have to give it a go!

I think a plastic pill bottle works better, never tried the game using a leather one.
 
BillyKoda said:
I played it growing up in Oklahoma City on a 10' snooker table.
I think this game works better on a snooker table. On a pool table it's not that hard to get all your points just pocketing balls in the two lower pockets and never worry about caroms on the balls or the bottle. Around here we've been playing a variation where you can't shoot a ball strait in, just to deal with this.
 
I play it from time to time on my 5x10 pool table. The rules that were posted seem to be lifted from the BCA rulebook. I usually modify the rules to where pocketing a ball only conveys the right to shoot again. The only points I count are on the caroms. I also like a carom game called Cowboy. That is also in the BCA rule book.

Chris in Denver
 
There was a group of us that played this the other night and I have to tell you we had a blast. If you have not played this, you have to try it it is a lot of fun especially with a group of people. Matt
 
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