Anyone See This Carnival Scam?

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matthew said:
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Look at what Donald Rumsfield said, "If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much"
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To that I say if you are criticized you might be doing too much.

I just hope the country does not "misunderestimate" Mr. Bush's intentions or his morality. For someone that said Jesus is his "favorite philosopher" I very much doubt that Mr. Bush could even correctly state ten things Jesus said or even correctly interpret what Jesus meant. He is also very adept at NOT following Jesus's tenants. So maybe Mr. Bush meant that Jesus is his favorite philosopher to ignore.

Vote Kerry - at least he's Better than Bush :-) (think the Kerry campaign will adopt that as their slogan?)

:-)) John
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Vote Kerry - at least he's Better than Bush :-) (think the Kerry campaign will adopt that as their slogan?)

:-)) John[/QUOTE]


That would get the fence riders, but it probably won't change anyone's mind. Maybe Kerry can use this "Vote Kerry - I'm not a Harvard Grad" Since both Kerry and Bush are Yaleys, he might win a couple.
 
TATE said:
At L.A. County Fair my 4 year old daughter and I waited in line to try the pool tables. She watched player after player win nothing. I paid $2 and ran the table despite the wacky equipment.

She picked out an animal and as we were leaving the booth, she gave my leg a big hug and said "your the greatest, daddy". That was the single most rewarding moment of my pool playing career.

Chris
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Tap, tap, tap.
 
matthew said:
Normally I stay out of debates like this on pool forums. Since I'm a political science major, it's finals week, and I don't want to study I feel the urge to reply. Now, you're right when the two previous posters stated their opinion, I would include in this, your own opinion. The difference is that you used facts and they did not. Furthermore, one of the core values of our society, is that people have the right to say what they want about our president. A fair amount of criticism and dissent is a good thing, because lacking either of these is one of the characteristics of fascism, I can list several examples of a authoritarian state. Another characteristic is the existence of ultra-nationalism as a prevailing idea within the dominant party. Now I'm not argueing that Bush is a fascist, because he's not. I voted for him. I'm just saying that people in our country have the right to say what they want about the government. A certain amount of criticism enables the circulation of free thought.

Look at what Donald Rumsfield said, "If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much"

"It is the common failing of totalitarian regimes that they cannot really understand the nature of our democracy. They mistake dissent for disloyalty. They mistake restlessness for a rejection of policy. They mistake a few committees for a country. They misjudge individual speeches for public policy." (Answering North Vietnamese charge that US could not endure)
-- Lyndon Baines Johnson (1908-73), 36th US President, Democrat


Just FYI~~this debate has been moved to non-pool-related if you're interested.

http://azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=4743

~David
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Don't forget there is never any chalk available to chalk the sticks. This being said the carny pool game is the only game I will play because I win more than 50% of the time and it is the only realistic shot I have of winning stuffed animals for my kids.
Here are my secrets that will better your odds. Break soft, which has already been mentioned. Never use any english at all - not right, left, top or bottom (no chalk, lousy equipment). Use speed control and the forward momentum of the cueball to get you shape. You can play stop shots. Always aim for the dead center of the pockets. You can't cheat the pockets. Watch others play a few games, so you can see some of the rolls of the table And if you aren't a good shot maker, you probably shouldn't even bother trying. Good luck and have fun. And my last advise is stay away from the teacups. They always make me dizzy as hell and nauseous for the rest of the day.
 
Last year I was at the Suffolk Country Fair in Long Island. There was this same 4 ball runout game. I tried and won the animal. The guy said that I could try again if I did the balls in rotation. I almost laughed because that wouldn't be that much harder, especially if you don't have to make a ball on the break. I told him that I would do it non-rotation but one handed and he said no.

This year we were at a fair at Belmont Race Track and they had the same game. My wife (Kim Segal) did it and also won without difficulty. She said that I should try also, but I didn't. There wouldn't be room in the car for two of those large stuffed animals!!! I looked around to see if there were any kids hanging around the game and I would give the prize to them, but there weren't any at that time.

By the way, the pockets were tight, but not as tight as the original poster mentioned. They were tight, but certainly doable. The game is designed for the public, who probably couldn't even runout on a big pocket, regular bar table. They make the pockets smaller just to weed out the people who do know a little about the game. If you can really play, this should be no problem as long as you don't get a bad roll. Of course it is much more difficult using their terrible table, and a cue stick that just came off a tree.

Andy Segal
 
onepocketchump said:
Here's the requested proof - Bush Quotes.

"First, we would not accept a treaty that would not have been ratified, nor a treaty that I thought made sense for the country."

"The senator has got to understand if he's going to have-he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road."

"It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more of our imports come from overseas."

"They misunderestimated me."

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it."

"The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants."

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."

"We don't believe in planners and deciders making the decisions on behalf of Americans."

"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe-I believe what I believe is right."

"I understand small business growth. I was one."

"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures."

"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some kind of federal program."

"If a person doesn't have the capacity that we all want that person to have, I suspect hope is in the far distant future, if at all."

You're welcome.

John Barton
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All this coming from a man that got permanantly banned from a High Profile Vegas night club for pretending to be part of the MOBY enterauge` and whats bad is they were ratted out by N-Sync
 
rocky said:
All this coming from a man that got permanantly banned from a High Profile Vegas night club for pretending to be part of the MOBY enterauge` and whats bad is they were ratted out by N-Sync
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That wasn't me - I wasn't any part of that - I was trying to get some sleep. Don't REMIND me.

John
 
Who is turning the world against our military and how are they putting their lives in greater danger? Wait, let me guess here. By some of us questioning what the hell we're doing in Iraq, that gives hope to those Iraqi's who are still fighting against us in Iraq! It is because of this hope that they think they actually have a chance to win, so they continue to fight! Wow, I really didn't think anyone bought that crap from Rumsfield. You know, I've referenced a quote by Hermann Goering on here before, so I'm not going to bother to reference it again. However, I can tell you that your post quotes him almost verbatim. Scary. :eek:


Reno said:
If turning the world against your military and putting their lives in greater danger is your idea of National Security, then I guess you should vote for John Kerry. If securing the United States of America is ideal to you, then you should vote for George W. Bush. That's all I've got.
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Well todays pool is much like a scam / with all of the legue plays ..... and BAR BOXES costing a $1.00 a pop. If you can find a game / people is asking for a spot/ if you need a spot then you shouldn't be playing the guy. If you are giving a spot you shouldn't be playing that person. How about a stright up game even. What happen to the big tables????? It seems like they are gone /here. I can remember when only children played on small tables...... I played in localTournaments in the 70's that paid 200 for first / now local tornaments pay 100 your doing good. I think the game has gone down hill.... Here ,the bars has a APA on one nite and BCA the next and Vally next ... and then a jack and jill tour..... no real torunments... almost have to go out of town. Maybe I am part of a carnivale ...... I do like playing pool..... wish things would get better. Seems like everyone is tring to hussel the hustler. I thought drunks gave pool halls a bad name but now it's hard to find drunks in a pool hall. Good luck everyone //////
 
3 things.

First. I'm surprised that no one said anything about the size of the pockets. In the thread starter, Silencer says, "i took two object balls, and placed them into the jaws, of one of the corner pockets, sure enough, they couldn't fit at all, the pockets were a drop larger than snooker table pockets!"

I would never expect a pocket to allow two balls-- in fact 1 1/2 balls is a little large... Anyone ever go to Family in S.F. or to CA Billiard Club in Mtn. View?!? Dude- I had to check to make sure one ball fit in those jaws... (FYI- one does. just barely.)

Second. My teacher told a carnie at the state fair that we didn't like stuffed animals, but if he wanted to put a little money on the side... I watched him take $50 off the carnie before the carnie quit. It's very doable.

Finally, I wish I'd made up these Bush campaign slogans, but I didn't.
-- Bush-Cheney '04 - Over a Billion Whoppers Sold
-- Bush-Cheney '04 - This time, elect us!

My hope in November:
Like Father like son: one term and he's done.
 
From everything I have heard poolhalls used to be a bachelors playground with swearing and drinking and smoking and gambling - lots of fun for the average guy. These days I have to worry about letting a little swear out because on the table behind me there are two couples out on a date and on the table in front of me there is a ten year playing with his sister. And this at ten o'clock at night. Not much different from playing at home where I have to keep everything in check around the family. Just a thought.
When golf goes mainstream it is OK, because the proximity is still several hundred yards, but that is not the case in pool.
 
The real scam is that the prize is not worth the $2.00 that you pay to play the game. The carnie wins either way. They just don't make as much if you "win".
 
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