Anyone Use A Rhino Carbon Fiber Shaft?

[boogieman]

I got mine on the black friday sale and have been playing with it ever since. I love the thing. It's got knocked over once onto concrete and no nicks or harm to it. If it gets dirty a simple wipe with a paper towel and some 91% alcohol makes it like brand new. There was a tiny bit of dust on first cleaning but I've not seen any since.

I'm not a fan of the stock tip but I don't like layered or medium tips. It plays like any layered medium tip I've tried, even the $30 ones. I shaped it flatter like I prefer. I also took off about a layer as it was so tall. I actually should take about 2 more layers off of it and see how it feels. Again, the tip is just fine but I prefer a hard milk dud. That reminds me, I need to get some tips soaking and ready for the vice now that it's not freezing outside in the shed.

 

[Island Drive]

The only thing I know is they have been on sale and they sell this little thread tester because they have a 5/16-14 that did not thread into any normal 5/16-14 pin
James White Dave kikel, Schon etc all mainstream cues.
I have no idea which 5/16-14 it would fit probably an import of some kind
The other version is a loose fitting 5/16-14 and I can't say that I like that

I think it's one of those you get what you pay for deals
My thrifty friend argued with them over a 4% restocking fee they charge on returns
I like Jacoby Black especially the new V4 which everyone seems to like

They do some things the other carbon fiber manufacturers don't do like multiple collar diameters to maintain a better transition from the shaft collar to the joint collar.
You just need to order that way
I just order them for local stock so I have to guess
South West .825, Schon .835 McDermott.850 etc

They call this joint design their ''standard''.
If you order one and don't want this joint let em know.
I just told em I have a Kikel, and got the correct one, they responded saying it's their standard joint.

Finally done with shafts.
Their standard tip feels like a mori, slightly lighter leather color.
It's a hard tip, drier leather that a mori but ok.

bm

 

[dendweller]

There seem to be conflicting views on whether little black fibers from the shaft continue to shed even after a thorough initial cleaning. What’s the deal?

I think there are differing experiences.

Anyone Use A Rhino Carbon Fiber Shaft?

I need a replacement 5/16" x 18 shaft for one of my spare cues. I can spend $85 delivered for a Maple shaft from Schmelke or $200 delivered for a Rhino carbon fiber which I can put on my Schmelke playing cue (and stick that shaft on my spare) and see how I like carbon fiber. Seems like a good...

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[DeadStick]

I actually wish it had a tad "more" deflection as I like using BHE and on the 12.7 the pivot point is almost 1/2 the length of the shaft.

Sounds right. My 12.5 Rhino has a PP of 15” (my 12.5 Cynergy is 14”). Note that I measure from CB to bridge, not tip to bridge. So a 15” PP is about 14” from tip for my typical address distance.

 

[sixwillwin]

I just got mine. Took about 3 weeks. $169 plus $15 to ship. Came packaged nicely. I got the radial (3/8 x 8) and it fits my Samsara butt nicely. I got the 12.2 and it is EXACTLY that. Tip seems ok. Its tall though! Will keep shaping it and knock it down a bit. My shaft is not dirty or anything. Compared to my 2 Cuetec cynergys, I cannot tell a difference. But Im just an amateur. I think its GREAT! and the price is just a bonus.

 

[Constantly Scratching]

They play good. Got one. Shoots straight, shoots good. Had multiple people that play with carbon shafts hit around with it. Each said it's good. One noted that it sounded a little hollow, but no one else said that so I can't really put much stock into that comment. Deflection is low. Replaced tip with Mako Ignite and it's great. For about a $200 deal with tip job, you can't beat it. Surface was clean with none of the residue mentioned for other shafts out there. I did later use alcohol on a soft cloth and got some black come off onto the cloth - no big deal, and I'm not surprised since it was I think 70 or 80% alcohol. It feels smooth, works like a tank and gives less deflection like some people want.

I mean, not to be a d##k, but I'd sure hate to have spent more for something else. This thing does good. Go buy one.

 

[HueblerHustler7]

Not sure if I missed a post but did you get one. I'd talked to them as well.

I had gotten the raven and within a few shots and inspection repackaged it up and shipped it back for a refund. The 11.8 shaft was inconstant taper and at its thinest point at the bottom of the pro taper where the two tapers meet... also 11.8 at the tip and ferrule and instantly jumped to 12.25 not even an inch later and had obvious signs of just taking a thicker shaft and quickly just sanding that area to make it 11.8... The shaft also had more deflection than a wood shaft IMHO. I just was not going to keep something I had no intent of wanting to get use to. Great customer service, poor product but I cannot speak for other mm and or constancy.

I since have purchased a Jacoby black v4 that was pretty nice but I ended up modifying more to my liking, but all around is a great shaft.

I just also received my Tiger Fortis pro 12mm, for me best shaft I have ever shot with so far, will be making a review in week or so once I have given the shaft some proper time.

 

[jameson71]

Thanks for the feedback.....That is good news.....I am hoping the 12.5 does the trick......Kind of makes me wish I was a pro......I expect the pros get the same treatment that Golf Pros get.....Here are 20 or so of the same driver....try them all and find the "hot" one... I was never a Pro Golfer....I was a Golf Professional...(years ago).......The reps would come by with 10-20 demo drivers and let you hit them and pick the "hot" one....There was always that 1 or 2 drivers that even though they were the exact same specs....drove the ball and extra 15-20 yards...

With the current 12.7....Since I use a shorter bridge length than needed for BHE with this shaft.....IF my stroke wavers I get some ugly misses.....I expect that there is a CF set up that fits my preferred normal bridge length that would be automatic for BHE and its self correcting properties.

I am sure there are those that will say....It is the player not the shaft.....and yes that is true.....I can play with any shaft......give me a house cue and I can play.....but I can also guarantee that the pro has a shaft set up preference that they play better with....

I would think you would want to try a larger shaft not smaller? Shouldn't a larger shaft have more mass/deflection and be a bit more forgiving on a wavering stroke?

 

[jalapus logan]

The more I use the Komet break cue and shaft, the more I like it.
(Taom break tip)

Same here, but I've only got the break shaft paired with a zento tip.

 

[Vnv]

I got rhino 12.4 today and color was very similar as my revo 12.4 but after I wiped Rhino with 90% alc it had lot of black residue on the paper towel and now it is much lighter gray than before. Is that normal? Why it lost darker color after just one wipe?

I am including the pics of revo and rhino after where rhino is now much lighter gray.

Second thing is that when I measured rhino just the tip it is at 12.00 mm vs revo which is at 12.5 and measured from the ring rhino is at 12.2 and Revo is again at 12.5

How come 12.4 rhino is coming at 12 or 12.2? Does it means that if I want something closer to revo 12.4 that I have to order rhino 12.6 or more likely 12.7mm?

Did anyone of you measured your tip?

Also rhino in specs says 21.5mm on the bottom which is not really the case. I measured it at 21.2mm which cause a gap on the side on purex butt where revo sits perfectly at 21.5mm.

Support replied to return it, I order it via Amazon.

On the picture you can see that shaft now looks discolored at the bottom and on the top where I did not wipe much first time because it was attached on the butt but after I tried to wipe it again and make it at least even but that darker color now for some reason stays there.

Also I would prefer that it is 29 and not 30 because I have thight space in one corner but for some reason they decided to default it at 30 which is weird. And why they offer so many options for a tip size if they are way off. They should have 11.8 12.4 and 12.9 as revo and try to be close to the measurements.

 

[garczar]

I got rhino 12.4 today and color was very similar as my revo 12.4 but after I wiped Rhino with 90% alc it had lot of black residue on the paper towel and now it is much lighter gray than before. Is that normal? Why it lost darker color after just one wipe?

I am including the pics of revo and rhino after where rhino is now much lighter gray.

Second thing is that when I measured rhino just the tip it is at 12.00 mm vs revo which is at 12.5 and measured from the ring rhino is at 12.2 and Revo is again at 12.5

How come 12.4 rhino is coming at 12 or 12.2? Does it means that if I want something closer to revo 12.4 that I have to order rhino 12.6 or more likely 12.7mm?

Did anyone of you measured your tip?

Also rhino in specs says 21.5mm on the bottom which is not really the case. I measured it at 21.2mm which cause a gap on the side on purex butt where revo sits perfectly at 21.5mm.

Support replied to return it, I order it via Amazon.

On the picture you can see that shaft now looks discolored at the bottom and on the top where I did not wipe much first time because it was attached on the butt but after I tried to wipe it again and make it at least even but that darker color now for some reason stays there.

Also I would prefer that it is 29 and not 30 because I have thight space in one corner but for some reason they decided to default it at 30 which is weird. And why they offer so many options for a tip size if they are way off. They should have 11.8 12.4 and 12.9 as revo and try to be close to the measurements.

Getting a perfect flush butt fit is more luck than anything else. Very few after-market shafts will fit all cues flush. My Rhino is just a tad off on my Mezz buts its nothing to sweat.

 

[Vnv]

Getting a perfect flush butt fit is more luck than anything else. Very few after-market shafts will fit all cues flush. My Rhino is just a tad off on my Mezz buts its nothing to sweat.

So what about that it is advertised as 21.5 and actually came as 21.0mm and advertised and purchased as 12.4 and came as 12.2 with 12.4 logo

One pic is with revo 12.4 they should be around the same size rhino 12.4 on the left and revo 12.4 on the right. Can you see the difference in the size?

 

[garczar]

So what about that it is advertised as 21.5 and actually came as 21.0mm and advertised and purchased as 12.4 and came as 12.2 with 12.4 logo

One pic is with revo 12.4 they should be around the same size rhino 12.4 on the left and revo 12.4 on the right. Can you see the difference in the size?

IMO both those fall within most accepted manuf tolerances. After a few shots the diff. in 12.2 and 12.4 isn't noticeable. I don't think i could tell the apart just by feel. Maybe but i doubt it. As for the joint difference that wouldn't even be on my radar screen. Has zero effect on how it plays. I like mine and would buy another.

 

[Vnv]

Revo tip is at 12.5 and revo ring is at 12.4 and revo under the ring is 12.4

Rhino tip is at 12.00, ring at 12.2 and under the ring as 12.2mm

It is a big difference when you play and hold it

Rhino 12.4 is closer in size to my other Hxt 11.75 shaft than it is closer to revo 12.4 and I purchased it as 12.4 so that is not acceptable at all

 

[Vnv]

Here is the pic

Hxt purex 11.75 on the left, rhino 12.4 and revo 12.4 on the right.

This rhino is almost thin as Hxt 11.75 lol

 

[Maxx]

Revo tip is at 12.5 and revo ring is at 12.4 and revo under the ring is 12.4

Rhino tip is at 12.00, ring at 12.2 and under the ring as 12.2mm

It is a big difference when you play and hold it

Rhino 12.4 is closer in size to my other Hxt 11.75 shaft than it is closer to revo 12.4 and I purchased it as 12.4 so that is not acceptable at all

Step away from the calipers!

 

[Vnv]

Step away from the calipers!

No need for calipers to see this difference in size. I order 12.4 and this is not even close to 12.4

 

[Island Drive]

I would think you would want to try a larger shaft not smaller? Shouldn't a larger shaft have more mass/deflection and be a bit more forgiving on a wavering stroke?

Be difficult to believe the opposite But.
I have another perspective, making me think the opposite.

In my thinking.
Your cueing at horizontal 3:30.
If you hit the Exact same spot on the cue ball with a 11 mm Shaft as opposed to a 12.4mm shaft, doesn't the smaller/poke shaft force the cue ball more ''Outward"? Maybe it doesn't. Often with cue shafts it ''sounds'' like it ''doesn't''.

 

[Rodney]

No need for calipers to see this difference in size. I order 12.4 and this is not even close to 12.4

If they’re willing to take it back just return it. You’re obviously not happy with it. Shit happens, move on…

 

[madmartigan]

I got rhino 12.4 today and color was very similar as my revo 12.4 but after I wiped Rhino with 90% alc it had lot of black residue on the paper towel and now it is much lighter gray than before. Is that normal? Why it lost darker color after just one wipe?

I am including the pics of revo and rhino after where rhino is now much lighter gray.

Second thing is that when I measured rhino just the tip it is at 12.00 mm vs revo which is at 12.5 and measured from the ring rhino is at 12.2 and Revo is again at 12.5

How come 12.4 rhino is coming at 12 or 12.2? Does it means that if I want something closer to revo 12.4 that I have to order rhino 12.6 or more likely 12.7mm?

Did anyone of you measured your tip?

Also rhino in specs says 21.5mm on the bottom which is not really the case. I measured it at 21.2mm which cause a gap on the side on purex butt where revo sits perfectly at 21.5mm.

Support replied to return it, I order it via Amazon.

On the picture you can see that shaft now looks discolored at the bottom and on the top where I did not wipe much first time because it was attached on the butt but after I tried to wipe it again and make it at least even but that darker color now for some reason stays there.

Also I would prefer that it is 29 and not 30 because I have thight space in one corner but for some reason they decided to default it at 30 which is weird. And why they offer so many options for a tip size if they are way off. They should have 11.8 12.4 and 12.9 as revo and try to be close to the measurements.

That last pic where the wiped down shaft looks almost white on one spot looks bad. Is 90% alcohol enough to damage the finish or something? I wouldn’t be happy at all with that.