Anyway to know if rubber has to be replaced before putting table together?

Timkrieger

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Hi, I have a Brunswick Anniversary that has the original rubber. Feels soft, normal when I squeeze it. I would hate to have to pay to have the table set up twice if I get it set up and it turns out the rubber doesn’t play right. Anyway to tell if that rubber needs to be replaced? I’m having the cloth replaced.

Thanks!
 
Hi, I have a Brunswick Anniversary that has the original rubber. Feels soft, normal when I squeeze it. I would hate to have to pay to have the table set up twice if I get it set up and it turns out the rubber doesn’t play right. Anyway to tell if that rubber needs to be replaced? I’m having the cloth replaced.

Thanks!
If you have an Anniversary with original rubber, it needs replacing, it's like 60-70 years old. BTW, where has this table been for so long?
 
If you have an Anniversary with original rubber, it needs replacing, it's like 60-70 years old. BTW, where has this table been for so long?
The table was in the same home here in California since the late ‘50’s. Like a time capsule. I’ve done a full cosmetic restoration. I’ll probably replace the rubber. I hit a few balls on it before I took it apart but the cloth was so bad I didn’t pay a lot of attention to testing the rubber.
 

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It would be a shame to have a fully restored table play like crap. The rubber is old, replace it. You will need to hire a mechanic familiar with the process change it out. It is not as simple as pulling the old off and installing the new. Today's K55 profile is slightly different than it was when the table was made. Thus, the subrail bevel needs to be adjusted to ensure proper cushion height and retain the full 50" x 100" playing field. There's lots of content in this forum to research.
 
Hi, I have a Brunswick Anniversary that has the original rubber. Feels soft, normal when I squeeze it. I would hate to have to pay to have the table set up twice if I get it set up and it turns out the rubber doesn’t play right. Anyway to tell if that rubber needs to be replaced? I’m having the cloth replaced.

Thanks!
If you're not tightening the pockets, keep the rubber thats on it.
 
If you're not tightening the pockets, keep the rubber thats on it.
Thanks. Yeah the reason I even considered keeping the original rubber is I’ve been told the old ones were the best cushions you could get, genuine gum rubber. I’m not doing any rail or pocket tightening on this one, so I’ll keep the rubber and see how it goes!
 
That table should have Brunswick Monarch cushions. If it has SuperSpeeds they’ve been replaced.
Monarch Superspeed.

The only real risk of keeping the original Monarch cushions, is that they could (and will likely) stain the cloth. You can find many photos of tables with the original cushions, with a brownish stain on the rail cloth.

I had an old friend who used to wipe his Monarch cushions down with brake fluid, every time the tables were recovered. He never noted any staining of his rail cloth... I can't say for certain whether it will make a difference, but you definitely wouldn't be hurting anything by doing so.
 
Monarch Superspeed.

The only real risk of keeping the original Monarch cushions, is that they could (and will likely) stain the cloth. You can find many photos of tables with the original cushions, with a brownish stain on the rail cloth.

I had an old friend who used to wipe his Monarch cushions down with brake fluid, every time the tables were recovered. He never noted any staining of his rail cloth... I can't say for certain whether it will make a difference, but you definitely wouldn't be hurting anything by doing so.
The single biggest reason people mistake the Monarch cushions for going bad is because they seem to lose their rebound, but the rebound is 100% effected by the rail bolt anchor plates, like the figure 8 and the round nut plates being held to the rails with wood screws that have been pulled loose, causing the rails to play slow.
 
Getting the rails ready to be recovered. Here’s a few pictures of the rubber.
 

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Getting the rails ready to be recovered. Here’s a few pictures of the rubber.
Wow! Appears to be all original! Hardly any staple holes at all. I think we can safely say this table was never in a pool room. Great find! I think what I’d do is just find a good way to secure those figure 8s, that is if they are loose, they might be okay as is. Hardwood dowels to restore the threaded holes, or maybe Stafast inserts, like what Diamond uses, if need be.
 
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Wow! Appears to be all original! Hardly any staple holes at all. I think we can safely say this table was never in a pool room. Great find! I think what I’d do is just find a good way to secure those figure 8s, that is if they are loose, they might be okay as is. Hardwood dowels to restore the threaded holes, or maybe Stafast inserts, like what Diamond uses, if need be.
Yeah this table was a time capsule for sure! What is it that comes lose on the figure 8’s? All the threads look ok and everything seemed solid before I took it apart.
 
Yeah this table was a time capsule for sure! What is it that comes lose on the figure 8’s? All the threads look ok and everything seemed solid before I took it apart.
Over tightening the rail bolts pulls the wood screws loose because it pulls the fig 8 nut plate down to the slate. You'll know which ones are loose by the imprint it leaves on the cloth. No imprints, no loose nut plates, don't tighten the rail bolts more than 12ft lbs.
 
The edge of that rubber looks rounded to me. The angle should be crisp and the rubber firm.
As opposed to what cushions? I would have to say almost every set of Monarch cushions I've ever taken of GC1,2,3 and Anniversaries and Centennial's, if it wasn't for extending the rails, the cushions were still good.
 
As opposed to what cushions? I would have to say almost every set of Monarch cushions I've ever taken of GC1,2,3 and Anniversaries and Centennial's, if it wasn't for extending the rails, the cushions were still good.
Spent the weekend setting up the Anniversary. Hit a few balls testing the cushions today and they are perfect, very lively! Thanks Glen for the advice to keep the original rubber!
 

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As opposed to what cushions? I would have to say almost every set of Monarch cushions I've ever taken of GC1,2,3 and Anniversaries and Centennial's, if it wasn't for extending the rails, the cushions were still good.
I purchased a 15 year old Alfa Romeo once. Most automotive rubber that old in that harsh environment was hard and cracked yet even the hoses in the engine compartment were as supple and rubbery as the day it was new. Clearly they were using a higher quality rubber that lasts a long time.
 
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