Apa break stick question?

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You can't switch sticks during a match right.
How about break stick which you are using to break, then are left hidden?
Can you use this stick to jump with? (Phenolic tip)
Can you go back to other cue after jump shot attempt?

It happens alot that you forget and play with one or the other cue?
Is this a ball-in- hand foul ?
Does the opponent have to stop you prior to shot?

This is going to be asked by my APA League franchise owner on tues. at their regional meeting in AC.

I will let you know their responce.
 
the answer is no!

After the break, if you continue to shoot with your breaking cue, that is what you have to use, till that game is done.

Once a new game starts you can go back to using a different cue.
 
Three

I watched Schmidt in the US Open use his playing cue, a break cue and a short jump cue in the same match so I assume you are allowed to have three cues. Please correct me if I am wrong about this.
Peace, purdman
 
Well the APA isnt a "real" pool league. It's like the wooden pinnochio version of pool. Their rules are about as stupid as you can get. So comparing to the US Open or any other tournament on the entire planet doesnt matter :(

That's the short version.
 
StormHotRod300 said:
the answer is no!

After the break, if you continue to shoot with your breaking cue, that is what you have to use, till that game is done.

Once a new game starts you can go back to using a different cue.

I remember the APA rules from some time back saying what you stated, but the current rules 2007/2008 do not prohibit changing cues during a game. Legal jumps are permitted with your regular game cue.

http://www.poolplayers.com/tmanual.pdf
33. EQUIPMENT
In general, any piece of equipment designed specifically for pocket billiards,
with the exception of jump cues and laser devices, is acceptable in APA
League play. Special equipment, such as bridges and cue extenders, are legal.
Jump shots are legal, when executed properly (see JUMP SHOTS described
in Definitions), but such shots must be attempted using your regular game
cue. Those cues especially designed for jump shots MAY NOT be used in
competition. Players are not allowed to break their cues down to attempt
jump shots.
*Any piece of equipment not covered by this rule and in question will be ruled
upon by APA. Cues with moveable parts will generally NOT be allowed.

There seems to be a lot of room for interpretation of regular game cue. In another thread recently, regarding this same topic, it was posted that a League Operator had ruled that break cues were legal to jump with.

I, along with many others, await an official ruling from the APA.

Steve

edited to include link to thread on APA and jump cues.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=72708
 
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In this area the APA allows you to change cues & pick up your phenolic tipped break cue to jump a ball with...you just can't add anything to it or remove anything...as in breaking it down to jump cue form. Check with your local league operator is the best choice as many APA areas have different bylaws.
 
i asked this in an earlier thread and an APA LO called the national office to get an official response and they confirmed that you cannot switch cues to do a jump shot. LO's can implement their own local rules and some allow you to use a full length break cue.
 
My understanding is you could use your break cue to jump with as long as you don't break it down. Showcase for instance builds a 2-piece break cue called the Buster that is a tad shorter, and it is considered "APA approved" for jumping.
 
seanjonsean said:
i kno if u even start to remove shaft on playing cue u lose the match..

Actually, that isn't true, at least not according to APA rules in my area. It is considered a poor sportsmanship foul (that is, sharking). If somebody does it, you're suppose to ask them if they are conceding, if they say no then they should put their cue back together.

From the APA website:
BREAKING DOWN CUE STICK before a match has ended could result in loss of match. If a player is shooting and his opponent cracks his stick (starts to take it apart) within view of the shooting player, this action could be considered a concession of the game by the opponent. The shooting player should stop and ask the opponent if s/he has just conceded the game, and if so, will be awarded the game. If the shooting player does not stop and ask, but continues to play and misses, the opponent will be permitted to take his turn. The intent is to eliminate an opponent?s attempt to intimidate or distract the shooting player.
 
cuesblues said:
My understanding is you could use your break cue to jump with as long as you don't break it down. Showcase for instance builds a 2-piece break cue called the Buster that is a tad shorter, and it is considered "APA approved" for jumping.

you can't switch cues. break cue, full cue, any cue. but like i mentioned earlier, local bylaws can override it. but at regionals and nationals it won't be allowed
 
While ogin through the rules section I came upon the one foot on the floor rule. Here is my question - Can it just be your toe(s) or does it have to be your actual foot?
 
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