I agree. "Pro" or "amateur" should be someone's skill level at the game. Not if they have a full time job or not. If SVB gets a full time job at the Bass Pro Shop can he play APA events then?
APA/Fargo cut off?
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I agree. "Pro" or "amateur" should be someone's skill level at the game. Not if they have a full time job or not. If SVB gets a full time job at the Bass Pro Shop can he play APA events then?
LOVE that "cruising" through part. My friend was stealing and then he lost.
Not being a nitpicker, but a small correction to your post.... he would be a 9. It's 9 ball.lol... I was waiting for this.
The APA doesn't seem to care about player rankings outside of their own "equalizer" system. So that wildly dominate 746 fargo is merely a 7. No different then any other appropriately rated 7 in the tournament. To suggest otherwise would be to suggest the "equalizer" rating system is somehow inadequate.
How dare you
However I am curious as to your friend's fargo....?
Read this again, seems like your buddy was also a bit too high to play in that event if he had a tight match against a 746 Fargo. At SBE in the warmup I played someone that was at that level. In both sets I won 2 games out of the 6 he got to win, one because he scratched on the 5 and one I broke and ran out. Not a tight match at all LOL
You, and others are forgetting one thing...
These top APA players are probably not playing in a regular league against lower level players. These 700 players are more likely in Masters division. BIG difference.
Those were US Amateur titles Brian won, weren't they? Played on a big table, on which Brian would destroy that APA 7 who took down the title (imo), from what I saw.
The runner up had his chances. They took turns selling out during the first half of the match.
A buddy of mine has won the APA nationals thing in Vegas a 2 or 3 times.
I once gave him sh!t for showing up at a small local tournament where I was the clear favorite prior to his arrival.
"Get better." was his reply.
I'm sure your friend the 666 enjoys being the biggest fish in his pond.
If he wants to be the biggest fish elsewhere, he too needs to get better.
jmho
In my neck of the woods. Being a 'masters' player doesn't qualify you for anything other than playing in the master's tourney.
You need to be a "regular" league member (effected by handicap) to play in the other events. Teams, scotch, singles.... etc
I'll look deeper I to it.
My friend lost his first match and made it to 3rd/4th. He is a 9, he beat another 9 75-12 in 3 innings. He had some amazing matches.
We have lots of big fish in our pond called Chicago…
I have zero doubt the rules change depending which LO suckling from the tit.
My experience being a 'master's only' player went as far as not even being able to play in Mini's while in Vegas. They didn't like the idea of me volunteering to play max handicap either. Their show, so they can do whatever they want.
The biggest issue with APA, outside of people cheating the system and getting away with it way too often (I watched an official stream of a National tournament of either the finals or close to the finals from the APA where there was a SL 5 that had an over 600 Fargo LOL) , is that their skill levels are not granular or go up high enough. If a Fargo 550 can be a max level, then either you need to cap it at like 600 to be fair or raise the limit to past that in order to account for the skill difference between a 550 and a 650 or a 700. Same thing for TAP that is maxed out at 7 in both 8 and 9 ball. In my area there are a few teams that make it to the finals or go to Vegas every year, if there was actual parity or fairness and not cheating or level caps that would not happen. Teams are either know for and made up to play the handicaps by sandbagging or by having a max level well over the normal max level skill level where the handicap does not matter because the player is just that much better. A 630 or 650 Fargo APA 9 playing an APA 6 should actually be an APA 10 or 11 playing that 6 to make it an even race.
The pond to which I was referring was the division in his apa league.
I'm from that area (Joliet), and I know how strong that area was.
Back in the day, it was difficult to send a team to Vegas without getting DQed due to players being raised.
They were not really bagging but rather the area was so strong it kept numbers lower than other areas.
He can play in them now so if Bass Pro Shops will allow him some vacation,yes.I agree. "Pro" or "amateur" should be someone's skill level at the game. Not if they have a full time job or not. If SVB gets a full time job at the Bass Pro Shop can he play APA events then?
I think he's won his fair share of the 9 Ball Shootout too. I could be wrong.
I just pictured Shane running a bait shop like Chuck from grumpy old men. Pool table in the backI agree. "Pro" or "amateur" should be someone's skill level at the game. Not if they have a full time job or not. If SVB gets a full time job at the Bass Pro Shop can he play APA events then?
Thanks for that.
Zerksies
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The other downside to the APA.
I'd love to play more frequently but I'm not playing on no damn team. My playing qualifies for the Masters division, but they are not allowing me to play in that division without being on a team.
As much as I hate the rules and rankings in APA (and BCA) I think you doth complain too much.
But this is not an APA problem, they create an event and run the event under the rules they created.
Since there was no cutoff, both your buddy and the opponent are on fair ground.
Had there actually been a cutoff, you buddy would have likely be cut, too.
It is just the way it is--don't like it--don't play.
To be fair to all those who enter Masters as dead money. You qualify to play in masters by breathing. Not even sure being able to hold a cue correctly is a prerequisite.
...and that's the kicker with team events. Having to field a team...lol