apa is awesome because......

Because I don't have to play by those silly rules. I never play in bars and well never play in the APA.
 
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Nope her Aunt is Brenda..... My team actually shoots Chicks with Stix in 2 weeks I believe at tuggies. Which is a place I don't like to go but don't got a choice haha.

Hey brother quick question, obviously you're on a traveling league so just curious how many different bars are in your league?
 
I have been asked to join several Masters teams. I've declined each time because I really can not stand playing 8 ball. Theyou don't by chance have a Masters league that's just 9 ball do they?

I will ask, been a few years since Ive played league so Im not sure.

Bar table, handicap, team pool isnt really my forte'.

Strong 3 man teams, big table, and no handicap, I was excited.

League operator is a really great guy too.

Ill get back to you soon
 
Every league or professional circuit has rules so I don't understand why that was included in your statement.

Handicapping is good and needed on any league that can have such a big variance of player skills pitted against each other. Lower level players would have no interest in continuing if there was no way for them to compete on some kind of level field or they felt they are wasting their time because they can't win and/or help their team in some way. I have had more teams just drop out of hockey leagues than pool leagues because they can't compete.

There is a certain point that you as an individual should not need a handicap because if you get to the table you either run it out or you hook your opponent, but rarely make a mistake. However, many of those same players will try to get weight (handicap) when playing for money which is pretty hypocritical. So equate handicapping in leagues to sports betting. In theory the teams are "equally" able to compete but the reality is they can't and as such someone decides how to give weight to encourage others to participate along with them in a virtual money world. Without that handicapping the sports betting world would have ended a long time ago.

I play in 2 leagues. APA and Missouri 8 Ball which have almost identical rules. They both have a handicap type system. APA is individually based with a max team limit in affect at all times and at all levels. MO8 is team based with no max limit but the divisions are grouped accordingly to give all a chance until you get to the team championship. There you will shoot any team of any level and it does not typically go well for lower level teams. As a result some never even bother to go because they know their team is going to get smoked by a team of all 6, 7 and 8 skill level players. MO8 skills are typically one less then APA in that a typical APA 6 in our area will be a 5 in MO8, etc.

I know people rag on the APA because of some rules and the 23 limit, but it has probably done more for pool than all other leagues in the country combined. You have options though. If you can't stick to 23 and there are many in your area with the same problem start a Super league with a cap of 30 or masters with no cap at all.

The part you snipped and quoted has been stated by every poster on here who made negative posts towards apa so it must be true :D

On a serious note there are rules in apa.that are geared toward new or lower level players and actually rules geared towards higher level players that other leagues do not have that falls under what apa calls its equalizer system.

Rules geared towards lower level.players are slop...timeout's and placing an object on the rail during coaching to assist in aiming

Rules geared toward higher higher level players are closed break and no jump cues

Possibly other rules I cant name right off the top of my head that are geared specifically to assist in leveling the playing field so to speak.

It is with some hesitation I post one other difference between apa and other leagues because so far this has been a positive thread.....surprisingly :thumbup:

That difference is attitude displayed towards new players . New players are welcomed with open arms in apa and not so much in other leagues. Now son may disagree with that last statement but that attitude is prevalent among posters on this site and i experienced it firsthand in the first league I joined before joining apa.
 
I have not played APA in a few years or since the score keeping changed but did play for 10 or more years prior.

Made some good friends. Played with near the same team for 6 or more years which culminated in a trip to the Vegas team championships. We may not keep up with everybody but when we see each other we remember the good times.

Interacting with, playing with and against people from all walks of life.

Getting used to pressure situations.

Like was mentioned earlier the opportunity for time outs is great. I played in a ND state league which is much like BCA I hear and that was frustrating as the guys I work with who I've never really played with prior didn't give a flip after the match was over to figure out what they should have done. So my teammates had no desire to improve which killed my interest to play with them.

In APA the race gives you an opportunity to get warmed up instead of the round robin set up where you play everybody once but at different times. This simply did not agree with my beer drinking schedule.

The 23 rule and handicapping is awesome also as compared to the ND state rules unless you are the one on the stacked team. The APA format would play so much better in these small ND towns. I enjoy fair competition and those rules attempt to insure that and also provide opportunities for strategery versus the BCA format which did not so much.
 
I moved to a new city for work and a coworker asked me to play on his team. Id never played pool other than in a bar goofing off and quite frankly thought it was stupid but wanting to meet new people & make friends I accepted. I was 20/21 then and now 14 years later pool is a big part of my life. Im no world beater but I've qualified for singles APA nationals, masters nationals, and the US Amateur.

There are things about the league/rules I don't like but I understand & appreciate what the intention of them are. And that's to give a guy/gal who's never played a start to hopefully become an avid fan.
 
I moved to a new city for work and a coworker asked me to play on his team. Id never played pool other than in a bar goofing off and quite frankly thought it was stupid but wanting to meet new people & make friends I accepted. I was 20/21 then and now 14 years later pool is a big part of my life. Im no world beater but I've qualified for singles APA nationals, masters nationals, and the US Amateur.

There are things about the league/rules I don't like but I understand & appreciate what the intention of them are. And that's to give a guy/gal who's never played a start to hopefully become an avid fan.

My sentiments exactly. Great post :thumbup:
 
You know this isnt gonna end well, don't you? :p

I really enjoy playing in our APA division. Like lorider, it got me searching the net to read up on pool when I couldn't be playing (ie goofing off at work) and it led me here.

I've met a very, very large group of people whom I call friends, that I would not have met otherwise. Many are very close personal friends as a result. That, as they say, is priceless.


Don t think someone could have choosen better words- well thought and written down buddy.

Of Course i m not in the APA :P but had the same expiriences- especially when i begun to play. Here on the other side of the pond it s all about the team leagues (ofc also single tournaments)- without them pool wouldn t exist in now way imo.
you need this solid base like in any other sport!

have a smooth stroke.
 
Don t think someone could have choosen better words- well thought and written down buddy.

Of Course i m not in the APA :P but had the same expiriences- especially when i begun to play. Here on the other side of the pond it s all about the team leagues (ofc also single tournaments)- without them pool wouldn t exist in now way imo.
you need this solid base like in any other sport!

have a smooth stroke.

Thanks Ingo.

It's good to stop and reflect on these things occasionally. I started playing APA 8 years ago, and when I think about all of these folks that are a regular part of my life now, people that I met playing in our APA division here, well it makes me very thankful. It really is a big family of sorts. We celebrate each others life events....birthdays, weddings, pretty much anything going on, we keep track of each other. We see each other outside of league as well.

The pool has been good for me, as well. At the time I started, I jumped in with both feet, trying to cram a lifetimes worth of learning and experience all at once, a fruitless endeavor. (especially trying to start from the ground up at 46 years old) Yet I enjoyed it immensely. I spent whatever extra time I could at the pool room practicing. I picked the brains of the better players, and did what learning I could away from the room, be it here, or in 99 Critical Shots, or the Capelle books. Many, many folks here were (and are still) very helpful and encouraging, including you.

Perhaps playing in another league system would have given me a similar experience, if it were still here with the same people. I wonder though, if such a system were geared to a higher level of play, how many of the folks that I play with and call friends now would have started in the first place? I had never played pool when I began, and if I were to be thrown into a higher level league system right out of the chute I doubt I would have felt the same way about sticking with it.

Ah, well. The great thing is we have APA here, and we have a great bunch of people that share our Tuesdays and Thursdays playing it.

Now, about that smooth stroke..... :p
 
I think APA is awesome especially if there is no other type of organized pool activity (other leagues, tournaments) in your area. It can keep pool halls alive. On this forum, we have more people than not come across as ignorant, especially when they argue the norm in their local league as generalization for all leagues.
 
This APA session has been my first experience with league pool, and I can say without hesitation, I have loved every minute of it. I have already progressed as a player, and it has gotten me hooked on pool. I know that there are faults with the system, but overall it has been a great experience. Maybe if and when I ever get good at this game I may not feel the same, but I love it so far.
 
The three major points that drew me to the APA as a league operator 25 years ago were:

1) the handicap system...which works great if both teams keep score correctly. The problem is most teams don't! :rolleyes:

2) the ONLY league system that allowed coaching...you could learn while you played, instead of making an error, having it explained to you afterwards, and then having to wait until that same opportunity came up in another game! Jumps the learning curve up a lot.

3) the ONLY league EVER to pay last place prize money (ok, $350 per team ain't much...but when you go back home, and are asked how you did, you can honestly say, "We finished in the money!"). :grin:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

I've removed this comment because it was very rude and abrasive. LoRider - Thnx for the gutcheck. You've given me the 7 and the breaks in humility.
 
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Not unless you win the lag and choose 9 ball and win 7-0 :)

Races are to 7 in 9 ball 5 in 8 ball

I beleve its 8 games of 9ball, and 5 games of 8 ball otherwise you could end up 6-6.

Had my opponenet win the flip and chose the game(and to rack)last week in masters...he never did get to break 7-0 lol

We are inhouse cash masters, so maybe regular apa masters is race to 6?
 
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