App for 9ball Score Keeping

i wrote the app quite generically out of respect of APAs copyrights and such. Even though it will keep score perfectly for that league, there is nothing that makes it specific to them. As someone mentioned earlier, i've seen people use it for gambling ,in 200pt vs 100pt race, it was actually quite interesting.
 
hardinm78 said:
i wrote the app quite generically out of respect of APAs copyrights and such. Even though it will keep score perfectly for that league, there is nothing that makes it specific to them. As someone mentioned earlier, i've seen people use it for gambling ,in 200pt vs 100pt race, it was actually quite interesting.
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There you go.

Step 1: Get a provisional patent asap (provisional is cheap and offers protections.
Step 2: Sell as many as you can using social sites. This is also called proof of concept stage. Sales means interest and pricing is good.
Step 3: Now you can go to APA headquarters, show proven sales and results, and ask them if they'd like to purchase exclusive rights, expand to integrate their LO's software, etc.

Best of luck to you!
 
Diamond69 said:
I say Kudos to the OP for creating a useful app to help the league players. Inventions come from people seeing a problem and creating a solution.

I'm concerned about the sentence in red above. Why should someone with a product need to get a LO's permission to sell a player something? What if it was a new tip, or a new chalk? I'm just confused with APA LO seemingly parental view of their league members.

Now, if he were to expand on the idea, and have put into the app that it can automatically upload to the APA system, that may be another story as the LO may not be interested in managing the stats that way.

But if it's just an app for the players to better enable them to score more accurately, I don't see where any permissions are needed.

Just my opinion. Take it for what it is.
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Someone with a product does NOT need permission to sell to players. Someone with a product that wants to advertise it on one of my web pages DOES need permission to post their ad on my page. Having a league or a web page does not give everyone with a product or service free reign to advertise on our personal or league web pages.

My apologies if I didn't make that clear in my first post.

As far as clearing it with APA first, if a product (not specifying any particular product) ends up being a big pile of junk and it was promoted through League Operators directly or indirectly by way of our web pages, we could all be standing there with egg on our faces. By going directly through the APA National Office, you might get support from them to promote it through all of our leagues, and they might even help you accomplish that goal if the product would improve your APA experience in some way.

As it stands, this particular product seems to only work with APA's 9 Ball 10 point scoring system. If the intent is to try to sell that product to all of APA's members, asking APA directly if you can have approval to do so would be the best avenue to take going forward. Getting their blessing gives you a much stronger platform to sell your product.
 
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hardinm78 said:
well on that note I can say that at the end of the match the app breaks down all stats by game so it can be easily transferred to paper. My teams have been using it for weeks with no issue.
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Build the app to have an email results function, that can be emailed to all players, league commissioner captains, etc.
 
APA LO thank you for your input and ideas. Once again I'm truly sorry for my post on your wall this morning. I will certainly use consideration when marketing from now on. I don't have any enemies, and I truly hate that we "met" under unpleasant circumstances.
 
APA LO said:
Someone with a product does NOT need permission to sell to players. Someone with a product that wants to advertise it on one of my web pages DOES need permission to post their ad on my page. Having a league or a web page does not give everyone with a product or service free reign to advertise on our personal or league web pages.

My apologies if I didn't make that clear in my first post.

As far as clearing it with APA first, if a product (not specifying any particular product) ends up being a big pile of junk and it was promoted through League Operators directly or indirectly by way of our web pages, we could all be standing there with egg on our faces. By going directly through the APA National Office, you might get support from them to promote it through all of our leagues, and they might even help you accomplish that goal if the product would improve your APA experience in some way.

As it stands, this particular product seems to only work with APA's 9 Ball 10 point scoring system. If the intent is to try to sell that product to all of APA's members, asking APA directly if you can have approval to do so would be the best avenue to take going forward. Getting their blessing gives you a much stronger platform to sell your product.
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Gotcha. Didn't understand that he somehow got it onto your page to advertise. I thought he was just posting it to friends and you saw it.

Although I agree with you that working with APA would be ideal in a perfect world. Anyone who creates a product has a natural fear of a large corporation looking at it, saying no thanks, and stealing the idea because the individual didn't have it properly protected.
 
robsnotes4u said:
Build the app to have an email results function, that can be emailed to all players, league commissioner captains, etc.
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That's a great idea that I have considered. However, that is certainly a function I would get APAs blessing on before implementing.
 
So the iPhone version doesn't calculate points per inning? Why not?

Also, you should make it a universal app. $3 more for an iPad version doesn't make sense. People are less likely to bring an iPad to league night than a smartphone. Why should they pay more for it?
 
I created those extra features to use the extra iPad screen space. Some of those features have already been added to iphone version in the last update. The rest will likely make it in future updates once I find way to do it without cluttering the screen. The extra screen room and features on the iPad version make it a bit more of a luxury. I understand the counter arguments to that, but the feedback I have gotten on the iPad version has been overwhelmingly positive and that it is easily worth the price.

On a side note one bar owner here hooks his iPad to a big screen via HDMI so everyone can follow the match score.
 
To clarify it tracks the points you make in an inning it just doesn't show the average points per inning stat
 
OP - I see that you haven't offered the Android based version yet, but I would be interested in using that format. I often have my Android based tablet close on league nights, and I would like to give the app a try. Keeping 8-ball score is pretty straight forward, but as a higher SL playing other higher SLs, folks like to argue about who's trying to keep up with the "tick marks" for my 9-ball matches. I really like the idea for singles events when more often than not you do have to keep your own score.
 
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