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[tomatoshooter]

Would today’s players ever miss on those pockets? With those same conditions, absolutely. I dont think anyone today is any better than those players. Remember that Efren was in his late 30’s at the time, and he wasnt being talked about as being favored to win. That’s how great the players were back then. It seems you’re suggesting that Strickland, Sigel, Varner etc werent every bit the shotmaker on any table that today’s players are. I would beg to differ.

I don't think today's players are better, per se, just that they have had greater opportunity to benefit from the experience of previous generations. I can study the games of every great player of the last 40 years. Earl, Efren, Nick Varner, Buddy Hall, Mosconi, etc had a much more difficult time studying the game. How good would they have been had that knowledge base been available?

Its like saying Bobby Jones wouldn't have been a great golfer if he lived today

I'm sure he would be but current golfers have benefitted from improvements in coaching training and equipment that weren't available in his era. The players aren't intrinsically better, conditions have changed and that changes the game.

 

[garczar]

Actually I was sayinging the opposite and agreeing with you- great players of yesterday would also be great players today. Yes Bobby Jones would be a great golfer today- I think we agree- so why the 'Give me a break"?

general statement. not aimed at anyone in particular. you need to relax there brother.

 

[garczar]

I don't think today's players are better, per se, just that they have had greater opportunity to benefit from the experience of previous generations. I can study the games of every great player of the last 40 years. Earl, Efren, Nick Varner, Buddy Hall, Mosconi, etc had a much more difficult time studying the game. How good would they have been had that knowledge base been available?

I'm sure he would be but current golfers have benefitted from improvements in coaching training and equipment that weren't available in his era. The players aren't intrinsically better, conditions have changed and that changes the game.

You don't get it i guess. If he played today he would have access to all you describe. He'd be as good or better than anyone on tour. Book it.

 

[easy-e]

You don't get it i guess. If he played today he would have access to all you describe. He'd be as good or better than anyone on tour. Book it.

I think there are two different debates going on here:

If a champion from back in the day was born in this era, he'd end up being a champion today.

If a champion from back in the day hopped into a time machine and entered a tournament today, he'd have a difficult time being a champion.

That's my opinion anyway, not worth a whole lot.

 

[Positively Ralf]

Let me be the first to say that I appreciate the level of competition today. I get these guys are in way better shape, have better training regimens and are just pocketing machines but let's be honest, the character was just a hell of a lot better back then. This is why, even at 38 years old, I go back and have way more fun watching the 80s and 90s players over the very robotic ones we have now.

The play was fun and so were they. As a viewer, those guys were a hell of a lot more entertaining.

 

[Lawnboy77]

I think there are two different debates going on here:

If a champion from back in the day was born in this era, he'd end up being a champion today.

If a champion from back in the day hopped into a time machine and entered a tournament today, he'd have a difficult time being a champion.

That's my opinion anyway, not worth a whole lot.

My opinion as well, the bar has been raised considerably over the years, but it doesn’t mean the guys from yesteryear couldn’t hang with the top players of today. They would just have to put in much more time and effort. Drills and practice sessions are much more effective these days.

 

[Poolhall60561]

Grady, Buddy and Mizeak in the booth. I love listening to these pros in these old videos.