So you get to move your ball to a better spot then play again. Doesn't really sound like a push to me.
are apa.rule haters pansies ?
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So you get to move your ball to a better spot then play again. Doesn't really sound like a push to me.
These are the points needed, by skill level:
sl1 - 14
sl2 - 19
sl3 - 25
sl4 - 31
sl5 - 38
sl6 - 46
sl7 - 55
sl8 - 65
sl9 - 75
So a push out is similar to a safe. So when you push out do you push yourself into a jump or kick shot or lock yourself up behind 3 balls in the middle of the table. I don't know... it would seem to easier to just break and control the rack, you know
Not anywhere i think it has to be reasonable place to put the golf ball. It depends how you look at it. Hit the ball into the water its obvious your not going to play it from there you get to move the ball into a different location outside the water to a better location and play from there. Kinda like a push.
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4's go to 31 so it was a 31-31 race.
After the match is over you total up the points made by both players. The points awarded to you is based on a sliding scale. The lower points you hold your opponent to the higher your score.
In this match my team mate only scored 15 points so he was awarded 4 points and the winner was awarded 16. .
To explain it a little better ...each match is worth 20 points.
I am a 5 . If I play another 5 its a 38-38 race.if I win and my opponent scores between 34-37 I win 12-8
If he scored 30-33 I win 13-7
It goes all the way to 20-0 . Which would mean I held him to less than 7 points. I have done that twice to opposing 5's. Once to a 4 which means I held him to less than 6 points in a 38-31 race and once to a 3 which means I held him to less than 5 points in a 38-25 race.
I hope that clarifies the scoring system.
justinb386
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Yeah, that reminds me of the end of the movie Tin Cup (one of my favorite movies).
justinb386
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Okay, that is what I thought, but then I seen the person who replied to you type the same thing (spa).
justinb386
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Okay, so if they were both 4's, then it would have been a race to 31 points. The final score could not have been 16-4.
See post 25
justinb386
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You try your best to push the cue ball into a position where you can either make the ball, or play a safety (if your opponent decides to give the shot back to you). I see a lot of pro's push into a jump shot (that they think they have a good chance of making). Just depends on your skill, and what you think of the skill of your opponent is. It is good to know your opponents skill level when pushing out. To the pro's, it is a skill that needs to be practiced (I assume).
justinb386
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Okay, I understand. Thanks for explaining that to me. It is nice that you get points for your team even if you lose (correct?).
Pushing is for pansies. Jumping is borderline. Learn to kick before jumping or pushing. The break is a controlled shot just like any other shot. Learn what works for you and why.
And the real question is......HOW MANY PANSIES HAVE POSTED IN THIS THREAD SO FAR???
And the real question is......HOW MANY PANSIES HAVE POSTED IN THIS THREAD SO FAR???
There is no denying that. It's exactly why its not allowed in apa because it gives a highly unfair advantage to superior players.
Edit to add...this thread is not about the level of skill it takes to execute push outs.. It's about players who whine or complain that they are not allowed to take the easy way out after being hooked on the break.
If there are no alternative shots available then yes the push out is taking the easy way out .
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The break in 8 ball is not a skill shot. Pushing and jumpi g is for PLAYERS.
And YOU can get played anytime! Yep a challenge for A B
They are all out golfing:grin:
justinb386
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You have a right to your opinion, but the fact is that any tournament where many highly skilled players get together, there is usually going to be a rule for an optional push out allowed, and those highly skilled players will push out when they feel that it is the best option for them at that time.
Dont think thats what i said. I correlated pushing out a skillful shot, much like playing a safety. Bar bangers do not like safety play because they cannot execute or see the skill involved and required to lay down a proper safety. A proper push out is the same. Simply rolling balls across the table is what most do just to leave yourself seeing the ball, and your opponent from starting a run. Its much more complicated and difficult to execute a good push out them to just roll the cue to the opposite rail.
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My best break ever at 9-ball was seven balls....
....I had to push....the nine was hooking me on the five.
Why should the best break of my life make me an underdog?