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lewdo26

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Help me out, folks. I'm a newb. Was there any other tournament of this caliber where a guy goes undefeated for 16 consecutive matches???

I think we'll have to dig down deep into history to find something like what Manalo is turning out at the moment...

Am I off, or is this *not at all common* ? Anyone?
 
lewdo26 said:
Help me out, folks. I'm a newb. Was there any other tournament of this caliber where a guy goes undefeated for 16 consecutive matches???

I think we'll have to dig down deep into history to find something like what Manalo is turning out at the moment...

Am I off, or is this *not at all common* ? Anyone?
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I'm not sure it could have been possible, except in a round robin format. 16 in a row is definitely quite a feat, no matter what format, plus with this caliber of competitors it makes it even more remarkable. Good job for Manalo, it's going to be tough to beat someone playing as well as he seems to be playing. Peace, John.
 
lewdo26 said:
Help me out, folks. I'm a newb. Was there any other tournament of this caliber where a guy goes undefeated for 16 consecutive matches???

I think we'll have to dig down deep into history to find something like what Manalo is turning out at the moment...

Am I off, or is this *not at all common* ? Anyone?
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Manalo's performance has been absoutely SPECTACULAR, AMAZING, PHENOMINAL, AWESOME and pretty good to !!!

I don't know of any other performance that even comes anywhere near his.

I love it !

Nj
 
Thanks guys. I thought we were witnessing something of historic proportions, really. I don't think this kind of performance owes anything to a world championship, or the like. Manalo would always be remembered by me (and I imagine many others) even if he quit playing tomorrow.
 
If you think about, Manalo is undefeated for his ENTIRE, although relatively very brief, 8 ball career...except for one match. The first time he played 8ball was in last year's 2004 WPA 8ball Championships. In that tournament, he went undefeated as well...except for one significant match. He lost the finals to whom?...you guessed it, Efren. Efren still has to face Manalo this round. We'll see what happens when they square away today. I can almost guarantee that the winner of that match will face Sigel.
 
I know of no other tournament I've ever watched where somebody even played 16 matches!

In the round robin stage at the WPC, many have gone 7 - 0, but I don't believe any of them have gone on to go 6 - 0 in the knockout.

If Manalo finishes this event undefeated, I'd have to call it the greatest tournament performance of the modern era.
 
lewdo26 said:
Help me out, folks. I'm a newb. Was there any other tournament of this caliber where a guy goes undefeated for 16 consecutive matches???

I think we'll have to dig down deep into history to find something like what Manalo is turning out at the moment...

Am I off, or is this *not at all common* ? Anyone?
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YES "Marvelous" Marlon Manalo is making history, even if it's only the beginning of a possible history.

He is setting the mark for others to try to beat, If he were to stay undefeated, he would be the IPT record holder and could only be tied! and even at 16 consecutive wins that could stay a high water mark for some time. Not like he has been just getting by either.

Most likely he will be the top ranked player statistically speaking, with the best GLI, Winning %, break and run %, total Wins, etc..

Manalo was always great, but just maybe with all this money and possibility of fame on the line, he may elevate his game to an even higher level.

Players now have something to shoot for, I really think this tour will make some great superstars that the general public will embrace if they are marketed correctly.
 
sjm said:
I know of no other tournament I've ever watched where somebody even played 16 matches!

In the round robin stage at the WPC, many have gone 7 - 0, but I don't believe any of them have gone on to go 6 - 0 in the knockout.

If Manalo finishes this event undefeated, I'd have to call it the greatest tournament performance of the modern era.
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Hey, sjm. Hope everything is well. I was hoping you would post given your long career as an observer of pro pool.

I meant to say that, even if Manalo was to lose the remainder of his matches, what he accomplished this far may be unparalleled. I know they had round robin tournaments during the 14.1 era. But likely nothing as lengthy as this tournament.

On second thought, this IPT format is downright brutal!
 
lewdo26 said:
Hey, sjm. Hope everything is well. I was hoping you would post given your long career as an observer of pro pool.

I meant to say that, even if Manalo was to lose the remainder of his matches, what he accomplished this far may be unparalleled. I know they had round robin tournaments during the 14.1 era. But likely nothing as lengthy as this tournament.

On second thought, this IPT format is downright brutal!
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I think we're learning that round robin is a very effective means of ensuring that the cream rises to the top. There are no easy draws in this format, and only a few are capable of the sustained excellence that it takes to succeed in this kind of event.

Just take a look at the survivors through three rounds: Archer, Varner and Reyes are, in my view, three of the ten best pool players of all time. Bustmante, Immonen and Manalo are proven susperstars of the game. No pretenders here!

When I try to think of an effort from the straight pool era that blew my mind more than any other that I witnessed, it seems strange that I think of Pete Margo's effort in the 1979 World Open 14.1 championships. Margo, if memory serves, had six different hundred ball runs, and didn't even win it! If Manalo doesn't win this, at least for me, his effort will be reminiscent of Margo's effort in 1979.

If Manalo wins this with just one loss, which will require between Reyes and Sigel in succession, it will certainly be as memorable effort in victory as any I can think of. Let's see how it plays out. What an event!
 
sjm said:
When I try to think of an effort from the straight pool era that blew my mind more than any other that I witnessed, it seems strange that I think of Pete Margo's effort in the 1979 World Open 14.1 championships. Margo, if memory serves, had six different hundred ball runs, and didn't even win it! If Manalo doesn't win this, at least for me, his effort will be reminiscent of Margo's effort in 1979.
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Marlon and Pete now own the two most memorable performances I can think of in defeat in pro pool.
 
one must also remember how manalo made two consecutive shutouts in the last world championship??

or was it three??

that is already unprecedented at that level
 
tfdr said:
one must also remember how manalo made two consecutive shutouts in the last world championship??

or was it three??

that is already unprecedented at that level
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It was two. After a double hill win against Charlie "Hillbilly" Bryant in the first round of the WPC knockout stage, Manalo beat two different Asians 10 - 0 to reach the quarterfinal, where he beat Mika Immonen 11 - 9, after which he lost 11 - 5 to Wu in the semifinal.
 
Another great feat...Dan Louie

I just spent the weekend with World Champion Dan Louie and we discussed how he not long ago lost his first match at the Reno Open and then proceeded to win 13 matches in a row to end up 3rd in the tournament. I believe that there were 300+ participants at the event.

What an accomplishment at a high caliber event like the Reno Open...

Thanks again,


Jeff
 
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