Article I stumbled upon -- Billiards and Psychoanalysis

Idiot Savant

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A German language pamphlet (?) titled Billiards and Psychoanalysis by Walter Kortanek. Hosted on what seems to be an Austrian billiards website. The translation to English seems to be very rough.

Within the area which is under the level of consciousness " reflexes" and "instincts" work - clearly recognizably from tournament players, with those the so-called "stress loads" vegetative reflexes (e.g. sweats, goose skin, trembling) hand in hand with psychological processes (like fear, anger) to go leave. Who doesn't know itself the lively Persaltik (= intestine movements), "on the stomach striking" in such cases? In addition, in normal portions the instincts can work:
"paternal ones" players do not play with full being able, in order to protect the weaker partner morally, give advice and assistance, while with the "rivaling" play "destroying" the opponent, who uses so-called "killer instinct". Under instincts, which we often regain enough in the animal realm (e.g. the hand vibrating with the schimpansen) fall " over branch movements ", with which two actions block each other in an instinct conflict, by an apparently senseless third action however are also solve : One believes to see a play error with the partner, jumps up, wants on its impact to concentrate, it detects however that the POINT was obtained and - around not as impolite or hastily to apply, availed itself extensively of the queue chalk, calls exaggerated according to "wonderful" (particularly with "sows") or pretends in any way its innocence . Among the instincts, which become effective without direct outside attractions often contrary to the reflexes, also the "impressive affectation" ranks, which shows itself with many players by the exterior (e.g. luxurious queue bags, impressing behavior, loudmouth talking).

Some of the illustrations are amusing:

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Just thought some might find it interesting or curious if anyone knows more about it.
 
So I ran the German article through google translate and it is maybe better in some ways:

EDIT: Wall of text deleted because people would prefer to have no translation at all than one that's hard to read.
 
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I know that feel bro.
 
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Freud and Jung playing pool in 1908

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Evidently the pool hall, which was in Iowa, survived through to the 1940s.

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I'm pretty sure that that if either Freud or Jung played billiards, it was on a table without pockets. Also, being pre-war (WW I) European upper crust, they would have been wearing suits to play billiards.
 
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Evidently the pool hall, which was in Iowa, survived through to the 1940s.

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I'm pretty sure that that if either Freud or Jung played billiards, it was on a table without pockets. Also, being pre-war (WW I) European upper crust, they would have been wearing suits to play billiards.

You are correct, it appears I was duped by a photoshop. I got it from here:


Huey, who studied psychology at George Washington University, uses a kind of painterly collage process, appropriating images from old black-and-white photographs, postcards and advertisements as her reference material and re-imagining them as luridly colored — and often surreal seeming — tableaus. “Freud and Jung,” for instance, features the famous psychoanalysts playing billiards.


The scene seems nutty, like something out of a dream. But Huey insists it’s true.(You can look it up. The two men were, in fact, friends. And there is a 1908 photo of them unwinding during an American lecture tour by shooting pool. Other paintings are just as outlandish seeming, and just as based on historical fact.)

And there's a thread here https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/jung-vs-freud-1908.444918/ demonstrating it's a fake. My bad.
 
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