B***h about your league teammate thread >_<

CreeDo

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Maybe it's in bad form to complain about your own team but I gotta rant here. It's gonna be long too, you can probably skip it if you're easily bored.

We have a strong team and the player in question is a decent shooter, every so often runs out in 8 ball but never has run back-to-back. But he's a useful member of the team when he's at the table.

Off the table... oh god..

· He is the 'cheerleader' type. In between shots, sometimes as you're getting set, and after a good shot... he claps and yells loudly. "Alright! Come on _____! Pick me up baby! Yeah! We need a big score here!" It's not what he's saying so much, it's the sheer volume and frequency of it. Other people across the room kind of stop and turn like "who's this loud jackass?"

It can literally shark his own team but nobody can say anything to him because he's fundamentally a nice guy and he has good intentions, and anyway he's a bit sensitive to criticism so we know it won't go well. So we just tolerate it.

· He is generally just a nonstop talker. This is the guy who engaged in a loud sports debate back and forth across my table with someone on the other team. He has also been known to burst into song, sometimes without benefit of the jukebox. Guys from other teams have come up to me saying "man, I'm sorry, I know he's your teammate and all but..." and before they say another word I immediately know who they're talking about and what they're gonna say. I once spent like 8 hours in a van with him and he was incapable of letting more than 5 minutes pass in silence. I dunno if he's got some kind of complex or what but even when his own family tries to tell him he's gotta dial it back he is incapable of listening. When my teammate complained he said "well sheesh you can't expect it to be a library here."

· He is a little too touchy feely. He'll respect the space around the table but frequently gets in your space just to talk to you, offer advice, clap you on the shoulder, etc. After every game is done he goes to get the balls even though he wasn't playing and then tries to rack for the incoming player, even when that player is standing at the foot of the table saying "I got it"

· He is unteachable. He'll run 6 or 7 despite the fact that he leaps straight up into the air on every single shot and has to spin in every ball whether it needs it or not. He'll make bad decisions and when I've tried to offer advice to him on his stroke or shot selection or whatever... well, he agrees actually. But I can tell he's just humoring me because he's like "oh, really? Yeah hmm I'm sure you're right." He never disagrees but he never actually follows the advice either.

· He used to be in arguments all the time. These days I guess he's mellowed out. But he still gets into it sometimes. He was the victim when the other team claimed a win because his pocket marker slid off, and he badgered the other team's captain and his opponent to the point where it was just an embarrassment.

· I always thought of him as basically honest, but he lined up and drilled in an obvious push shot where there's a cm of air between the balls. He pushed to perfect position on a funny 8 that only went into a far corner and made it. The foul literally won him the game, and when I ask him if he realized what he'd done the answer was "yeah, I knew, but they never called anyone over to watch the hit so it doesn't matter". Later I asked the other team if they had seen it and they said yeah but they didn't think he was going to do it, since everyone knows about pushes on our teams.
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I could probably come up with more but that's enough to give any team gray hairs. You're thinking "why doesn't someone just talk to him and kick him off the team?" Well, I guess we're all kinda sissies when it comes to confronting people, and it's tougher when the person in question is a good guy. I might make him sound like a bit of a jerk but outside of this stuff he's really friendly and generous and easy to get along with, talking your ear off notwithstanding.

Mostly I just wanted to complain and hear other people's horror stories :)
 
Maybe it's in bad form to complain about your own team but I gotta rant here. It's gonna be long too, you can probably skip it if you're easily bored.

We have a strong team and the player in question is a decent shooter, every so often runs out in 8 ball but never has run back-to-back. But he's a useful member of the team when he's at the table.

Off the table... oh god..

· He is the 'cheerleader' type. In between shots, sometimes as you're getting set, and after a good shot... he claps and yells loudly. "Alright! Come on _____! Pick me up baby! Yeah! We need a big score here!" It's not what he's saying so much, it's the sheer volume and frequency of it. Other people across the room kind of stop and turn like "who's this loud jackass?"

It can literally shark his own team but nobody can say anything to him because he's fundamentally a nice guy and he has good intentions, and anyway he's a bit sensitive to criticism so we know it won't go well. So we just tolerate it.

· He is generally just a nonstop talker. This is the guy who engaged in a loud sports debate back and forth across my table with someone on the other team. He has also been known to burst into song, sometimes without benefit of the jukebox. Guys from other teams have come up to me saying "man, I'm sorry, I know he's your teammate and all but..." and before they say another word I immediately know who they're talking about and what they're gonna say. I once spent like 8 hours in a van with him and he was incapable of letting more than 5 minutes pass in silence. I dunno if he's got some kind of complex or what but even when his own family tries to tell him he's gotta dial it back he is incapable of listening. When my teammate complained he said "well sheesh you can't expect it to be a library here."

· He is a little too touchy feely. He'll respect the space around the table but frequently gets in your space just to talk to you, offer advice, clap you on the shoulder, etc. After every game is done he goes to get the balls even though he wasn't playing and then tries to rack for the incoming player, even when that player is standing at the foot of the table saying "I got it"

· He is unteachable. He'll run 6 or 7 despite the fact that he leaps straight up into the air on every single shot and has to spin in every ball whether it needs it or not. He'll make bad decisions and when I've tried to offer advice to him on his stroke or shot selection or whatever... well, he agrees actually. But I can tell he's just humoring me because he's like "oh, really? Yeah hmm I'm sure you're right." He never disagrees but he never actually follows the advice either.

· He used to be in arguments all the time. These days I guess he's mellowed out. But he still gets into it sometimes. He was the victim when the other team claimed a win because his pocket marker slid off, and he badgered the other team's captain and his opponent to the point where it was just an embarrassment.

· I always thought of him as basically honest, but he lined up and drilled in an obvious push shot where there's a cm of air between the balls. He pushed to perfect position on a funny 8 that only went into a far corner and made it. The foul literally won him the game, and when I ask him if he realized what he'd done the answer was "yeah, I knew, but they never called anyone over to watch the hit so it doesn't matter". Later I asked the other team if they had seen it and they said yeah but they didn't think he was going to do it, since everyone knows about pushes on our teams.
...
I could probably come up with more but that's enough to give any team gray hairs. You're thinking "why doesn't someone just talk to him and kick him off the team?" Well, I guess we're all kinda sissies when it comes to confronting people, and it's tougher when the person in question is a good guy. I might make him sound like a bit of a jerk but outside of this stuff he's really friendly and generous and easy to get along with, talking your ear off notwithstanding.

Mostly I just wanted to complain and hear other people's horror stories :)

Sounds like leadership isn't found on your team. He'd probably hate me if he was on my team because i'd downright ignore him if he was trying to talk my ear off 24/7. Hell i'm already labeled as an @sshole by the whole bar I shoot at just because I don't want to listen their bs. If that makes me an @sshole, well f*cking so be it!
 
i would just stick it out the rest of your season and tell him you wont need to use him next year when it comes time to start again if he bugs you that much.
Thats what i would do.

What do your other teammate think about him??
 
Sound very mild compared to some of the teammates I've had. Let's just say alchol was heavily involved, and pool was an after thought.
 
give him the boot!

I cant stand league players like that.

After reading your post why does the scene in TCOM where Vincent dumps to the old guy with the hole in his throat come to mind? You know where Vincent is all P*ssed and he tells Eddie " Id shove a pool cue in his throat" or something like that.

THats what Id want to do...:thumbup:
 
There's a teammate on my team at the ABC in-house 9-ball league who is just *killing* us in stats and it drives me absolutely crazy. We're in 3rd place right now, but would be in first WITHOUT A DOUBT if this guy didn't play. Currently after 7 or 8 weeks, only one other person has more than one loss for the entire season. Meanwhile, this guy has lost FIVE OF SEVEN matches! How annoying. Meanwhile, he's questioning why he's even playing and doesn't have the confidence to bring his A game to the table on Thursday nights. It's a total drag on team morale.

Oh yeah, that guy is me. Ouch!
 
HaHa... sounds like he just don't know that hes irritating in that way. If you are decent friends I would just tell him. If he is a friend I'm sure he would rather hear up front.

I was just thinking about a guy who plays on our team today. The guy just can't handle losing. Sticks being thrown... poor attitude. That situation I am seriously considering telling him to GROW UP.
 
I am not a "League" guy, but my buddy and I gamble at the pool room on Wednesdays, which happens to be league night. We have to put up with all kinds of yelling, screaming, jumping up & down, standing next to our table oblivious that you are trying to shoot, when there is plenty of room on the other side of theirs, a general lack of consideration for others in the pool room. The fact that you are down on the nine, and that shot might be worth more than their tab for the night seems beyond their comprehension. It doesn't "bother" me, because I think distractions are a great opportunity to improve my focus, and to the extent it distracts my buddy I feel it's a good thing. We respect the game, equipment, others, but that doesn't mean everybody does. It's just part of the fun, but as I said I'm not a "League" guy.:rolleyes:
 
when I did play in league I had a teammate that I swear never spoke unless spoken to, didn't drink at all, was respectful of the game and his competitors, was very tasteful in his wardrobe choices, and very neat in appearance....he stuck out like a sore thumb. He only plays pool on league night and yet was a decent player. So he's the only thing I miss about playing in league too. Was a great guy to shoot around with on the practice table.
 
SteveH: That's how we're prolly gonna handle it. Easier to ride it out and then form a different team next year than get into a squabble over it this year. We actually have all broadly hinted at him about the problem and he just refuses to take the hints, and it's not cuz he doesn't get it. That's kind of how I know it'll go badly if we ever actually do have an intervention for him (and yeah it's everyone on the team not just me)

SteveW: Oh! That reminds me of another thing he does! Some nights he's constantly complaining on his own performance and talking about how he drags everyone down with his weak playing. People actually want to kick him off for being such a downer rather than for his actual playing ;D

In all seriousness though, everyone struggles and most players in league get that it's not about making the most stacked powerhouse top ranked team and weeding out anyone who shoots less than triple-A. I dunno how your league works but on our league it actually hurts to have every player win every game, the handcap kills you the next week. On our typical week we give up 10 points (1 full game) each round. But right now our weakest player is in a bit slump and now it's like 2-3 points, and sometimes the other team even gives us points, so we're happy as clams.

The important thing is if the weakest link has a sincere willingness to learn and improve. He has to be teachable. If you listen to what the best player on your team says, then you're an asset, period. God... that reminds me of ANOTHER thing the dude on my team does.. he'll try to teach someone and actually interrupt and override the 2 best players while they're in the middle of explaining the right play or the right english or whatever. Sometimes he's just saying the exact same thing, other times it's worse, but it irritates the snot out of me to be interrupted like that because having two people coaching a guy at once can be counterproductive.
 
when I'm at league I usually try to drink just enough so that I'm still semi coherent and mobile but enough so that I can just focus on a spot on the wall or floor and drown out all the noise
 
oh hells yeah, everyone can tell at what stage of drunk I'm in

not enough to drink Jake: scowls a lot, frowns when going up to the table no matter what the layout is

just right Jake: not scowly, just sullen, blank expression when going to the table

too much to drink Jake: constantly laughing and smiling like a moron, goose-steppin up to the table every time, banking at least 7 out of 10 shots

much too much to drink Jake: bewildered expression, tripping over all the hills and valleys on a previously smooth floor, using the table for bodily support every shot
 
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