[b]racking The Balls.........[/b]

Heckler

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I hear people saying about different ways to rack the balls but really can it make that much difference???

Maybe over here in the UK we just dont know how to rack em properly....lol

Like for example how can you rack and guarentee the wing ball on the break???

Any info would be appreciated
 
Break out the Sardo M3000. Naw just playing, well i have three tables, nothing special and no simonis cloth, so what i have done was marked the corners of the rack on the table but first i made shure it was dead center, of course where the balls need to be racked, this way the rack is always placed in the same spot, and to make shure of that i would knock on top of the balls in the rack to make shure all the balls were froze. But i wouldn't request you doing this if you have nyce cloth, or you are planning on changing your cloth time to time. But by doing this on my tables i get a gooder rack all the time, repeatable. Sorry i couldn't be much more of a help. Cole 'TheConArtist'
 
TheConArtist said:
Break out the Sardo M3000. Naw just playing, well i have three tables, nothing special and no simonis cloth, so what i have done was marked the corners of the rack on the table but first i made shure it was dead center, of course where the balls need to be racked, this way the rack is always placed in the same spot, and to make shure of that i would knock on top of the balls in the rack to make shure all the balls were froze. But i wouldn't request you doing this if you have nyce cloth, or you are planning on changing your cloth time to time. But by doing this on my tables i get a gooder rack all the time, repeatable. Sorry i couldn't be much more of a help. Cole 'TheConArtist'
I can't believe you said "gooder" LOL
 
Heckler said:
I hear people saying about different ways to rack the balls but really can it make that much difference???

Maybe over here in the UK we just dont know how to rack em properly....lol

Like for example how can you rack and guarentee the wing ball on the break???

Any info would be appreciated

The issue about racking is not so much about how it can help your break as much as it is about how it can affect your opponents break negatively. A little moisture on one or two balls or leaving the rack loose in certain spots can really screw up an opponents break. At the pro level this can mean the difference between winning or losing a tourney or could be the difference in a big money game.

Terry
 
It makes a huge difference. Yeah you can rack to more or less guarantee a wing ball straight in every time...not going to tell you how to do it though.

Heckler said:
I hear people saying about different ways to rack the balls but really can it make that much difference???

Maybe over here in the UK we just dont know how to rack em properly....lol

Like for example how can you rack and guarentee the wing ball on the break???

Any info would be appreciated
 
You could rack them like this :eek:

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%AN7O5%BL9Q0%CK9P6%DL8N0%EM7P1%FL0Q9%GL0M4%HM7N8%IL7O4%JR9\7
%KG8^0%LJ1^2%MM1]1%NL8]7%OS0]6%Pg9V9
)END
 
you just had to go and tell him. great now another member of the "make the wingball everytime" club

Black-Balled said:
You could rack them like this :eek:

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%KG8^0%LJ1^2%MM1]1%NL8]7%OS0]6%Pg9V9
)END
 
Vonn31 said:
I can't believe you said "gooder" LOL
why is that Vonn, i like to change the words up a bit, like HEAVENo instead of HELLo cracks people up around here hehehe. Cole 'TheConArtist'
 
TheConArtist said:
why is that Vonn, i like to change the words up a bit, like HEAVENo instead of HELLo cracks people up around here hehehe. Cole 'TheConArtist'

You just can't talk or spell correctly, that's all. It's a common malady around here ...

Dave, who can't understand how the daughter can get 10/10 on her spelling tests, then forget everything when chatting on MSN :confused:
 
A player will never ...

A Player will never talk about how he racks the balls to undermine an
Opponents break ... That is an unspoken no-no in Pool, unless he has
a Protege' and is training him.

Lots of 'Shooters' might talk about it, but not a Player.

And it does not involve moisture or dirty tricks, it just involves little
things that are slight, but work.
 
Snapshot9 said:
A Player will never talk about how he racks the balls to undermine an
Opponents break ... That is an unspoken no-no in Pool, unless he has
a Protege' and is training him.

Lots of 'Shooters' might talk about it, but not a Player.

And it does not involve moisture or dirty tricks, it just involves little
things that are slight, but work.

I will - if the wing ball is slightly dislodged from the ball behind it, its chances of going are massively increased. If there is a gap between the nine ball and the ball behind it, its chances of going are greatly increased as well.

The most common method of undermining an opponent's break is to 'air' the nine ball, or in other words, to ensure that the two balls behind the 1 ball are not touching the nine. This is a certain slug and usually passes scrutiny. Most opponents will alter the position of the rack slightly if a breaker is consistently successfull, but this can backfire.

Personally, if an opponent is making a lot of balls on the break, I don't do anything too shady. I've found that the best move is to simply try and ensure that the balls are all frozen and that they're racked in the middle of the spot. This is the best defense, I've found, especially over the long haul, because it encourages him to give you the same rack back.
 
In honesty I dont have to much issue with my own break, lack abit of consistancy and lose the 9 alittle too often but other than that its not too bad.

I was just wondering what all the fuss was about as we dont seem to hear too much about it all over here.

In all the events here you have to rack your own....so I will deffinatley be having a play with a few of those things and see what works...

Maybe my break will get GOODER.....lol
 
Heckler said:
I was just wondering what all the fuss was about as we don't seem to hear too much about it all over here.

The Break Shot is the most complex shot on the Pool Table. Most players don't discuss the Break Shot, because they are not aware the Break Shot can be played just like any other shot.

Most players think the Break Shot is "how the game gets started". However, the Break Shot has come under some scrutiny & research.

Once a Player has become a high level competitor, the Break Shot means a lot, maybe the difference between winning & losing.
 
ceebee said:
The Break Shot is the most complex shot on the Pool Table. Most players don't discuss the Break Shot, because they are not aware the Break Shot can be played just like any other shot.

Most players think the Break Shot is "how the game gets started". However, the Break Shot has come under some scrutiny & research.

Once a Player has become a high level competitor, the Break Shot means a lot, maybe the difference between winning & losing.

Well it's the single most important shot in nine ball, so yeah, I guess you could say it means a lot.
 
gromulan said:
Well it's the single most important shot in nine ball, so yeah, I guess you could say it means a lot.

The Break Shot is very, very important in every game of Pocket Billiards.
8-Ball, 9-Ball, 10-Ball, One-Pocket, Straight Pool & Snooker are all governed by a player with a good break shot.

A successful method of cue ball control is to attempt to use the semi-soft break. Pool players are getting smarter, they are learning new speeds to spread balls and still be allowed to run out without having to "Hit HARD & Hope."

"Hit HARD & Hope" is striking the cue ball as hard as you can, into the rack, hoping something falls, and hoping the CB gets lucky shape on the lowest-numbered ball. Sometimes you'll pocket a ball and get good shape on the lowest-numbered ball, sometimes you won't. You can't predict what's going to happen. "Hit HARD & Hope" will prove unsuccessful against a good player.

All that being said, there is always a factor of LUCK on the break. If you control the lowest numbered object ball and CB perfectly, along with the corner ball. You may still be relying on luck to insure no balls end up resting between the CB and the lowest numbered object ball.

Good pool is all about using percentages to work in your favor. Break only as hard as you can & still control the Cue Ball. Accuracy is far more important than power, which is why the soft break is being used more and more.

The break is the most important shot in any game. It sets the table (no pun intended) for the rest of the rack. As such, it should be practiced just as much as any other shot. Don't just bash the rack in practice, the point is to learn shots that can be reproduced time after time. The same mindset is applied to the break shot.

The lesson here is this; use whatever means necessary to keep yourself at the table after the break. The difficulty is finding the method which works for you. That method can be found by disciplined practice.
 
Cause and Effect ...

When you reach a level of being able to almost run any table layout
out there in 9 ball .... you go, 'duh' what allows me to run out?

What is hard is to be able to win when YOUR break is not working
for you, and another area raises it's head - safeties.

As it was stated, evaluating the situations, the variety of shots
available, and the percentages for each situation, and playing
the percentages will allow you to win more. It is obvious in some
matchups who the lessor player is, and the only way a lessor
player will beat a better player is by being smarter and using
good defense, which in turn, will give him a chance to open up
his offense.
 
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