Balkline table markings ?

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Howdy All;

Just beginning the process of learning to play and a lot of the videos I'm finding are European and
as ya'll know they like the "Small" games. Have been hunting for an explanation of the various markings
that are on the table.
Is there somewhere that I can find out about the size of and the rules surrounding the markings for the
different "Small" games?

Thanks for your thoughts and any suggestions.

hank
 
The UMB website has the complete rules. I'm not sure whether there is a diagram or not.

I urge you to find/buy/borrow Frederic Caudron's series on how to play all the games. He shows marking the table. There is optional English commentary.
Bob J. Howdy;

Hoping you'd show up. The UMB site is selfishly in French and they don't link (that I have been able to find),
to the diagrams.

I'll give it a shot to find Mr. Caudron's info. Thanks for the tip.

hank
 
The UMB website has the complete rules. I'm not sure whether there is a diagram or not.

I urge you to find/buy/borrow Frederic Caudron's series on how to play all the games. He shows marking the table. There is optional English commentary.
Bob J. Howdy;

Hoping you'd show up. The UMB site is what it is, fairly good found the rules but they do not have the appendices
to the diagrams. So, the cow gives everything except the milk in this instance, chucklin'

I'll give it a shot to find Mr. Caudron's info. Thanks for the tip.
Went there but either sold out or not available. Not my week this week. chucklin'

hank
 
this is an old thread
dont know if the guy is still making the templates
video from the link
hope this helps
 
this is an old thread
dont know if the guy is still making the templates
video from the link
hope this helps
bbb, Howdy;

Thank you!

hank
 
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I looked in Wikipedia under balkline and they have a full 47/2 layout shown as well as the "champions game" layout for straight rail. There are some errors in the text. For example, at 47/2, the center section has the usual restriction but the text says otherwise.
Bob, Howdy;

I'd looked at Wiki, but the page I looked at may have had the drawing but lacked any kind of definition
of scoring or measurements. The links above have the measurements.
The videos you recommended are at present, unavailable. Also, I just went to the Balkline page you mention
here and found some helpful information. Thank you very much for pointing me in a good direction.

Happy Easter.

hank
 
i bought one from peter de backers store, but in hind sight you can make your own and save alot of money,
71cm , 47, cm , are the two sizes for the match table

then it goes to 56 and 38 i believe
such a great game and a great shame its not played in the states
 
Howdy All;

Okay, getting somewhere with the learning, good thing correct?

Now who can tell me about the smaller squares that sit astride the Long lines?
What do they signify, mean, what rules apply to them? Anything else that can
be told about them.

Thanks for the information.

hank
 
same thing applies, can only make 2 points and drive a ball out

even if they are straddling one balkline and both inside the smaller one on either side, same thing, one ball has to leave the area on the 2nd point
 
from wikipedia
Balklines did not end the use of the rail nurse but they did restrict its use. Soon a new type of nurse was developed which exploited a loophole in balkline rules: so long as both object balls were on either side of a balkline, there was no restriction on counts, as each ball lay in a separate balk space, a technique called the anchor nurse.[1]

On 1894, Chicago billiard hall owner J. E. Parker, after Schaefer and Frank C. Ives both posted extensive runs at his hall using the anchor nurse, suggested adding a rectangular marking straddling the spot where the balkline meets each rail, known as the anchor space and nicknamed the "Parker's box". Enclosing a space 3.5 inches (8.9 cm) out from the rail and 7 inches (18 cm) across, the box marks a region where both balls are considered in balk, even if the object balls physically fall on either side of a balkline. When first instituted, ten shots were allowed while the balls were inside the anchor space. This was reduced to five in 1896.[1]

True to form, the next skill development response was the chuck nurse, known as a rocking cannon in the United Kingdom. With one ball frozen to the cushion in the anchor space, but the second object ball away from the rail just outside the borders of the anchor space, the cue ball is gently rebounded off the frozen ball not moving it, but with just enough speed to meet the other object ball which rocks in place, but does not change position. In 1912, William A. Spinks ran 1,010 continuous points using the chuck nurse and broke off his run without ever missing.[1]

There were a number of proposals to curtail the chuck nurse's effectiveness, including removing the four balk spaces on the end rails but leaving balk spaces in place on the long rails,[16] but the solution ultimately reached, and the change that brought the general rules of balkline into configuration with what is played today, was simply a doubling of the anchor space to 7 by 14 inches (18 cm × 36 cm), placing the chuck nurse out of reach. The new restriction was instituted for a 1914 tournamen
 
there are "calls" the ref must announce , its for the audience mostly from whta i think ive been told

entre, dedans are the most used but once the small box is in play i dont remember it gets a little more complicated. the ref also has to call out the score time to time, its almost as hard to call a match as it is to play this game! lol
 
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from wikipedia
Balklines did not end the use of the rail nurse but they did restrict its use. Soon a new type of nurse was developed which exploited a loophole in balkline rules: so long as both object balls were on either side of a balkline, there was no restriction on counts, as each ball lay in a separate balk space, a technique called the anchor nurse.[1]

On 1894, Chicago billiard hall owner J. E. Parker, after Schaefer and Frank C. Ives both posted extensive runs at his hall using the anchor nurse, suggested adding a rectangular marking straddling the spot where the balkline meets each rail, known as the anchor space and nicknamed the "Parker's box". Enclosing a space 3.5 inches (8.9 cm) out from the rail and 7 inches (18 cm) across, the box marks a region where both balls are considered in balk, even if the object balls physically fall on either side of a balkline. When first instituted, ten shots were allowed while the balls were inside the anchor space. This was reduced to five in 1896.[1]

True to form, the next skill development response was the chuck nurse, known as a rocking cannon in the United Kingdom. With one ball frozen to the cushion in the anchor space, but the second object ball away from the rail just outside the borders of the anchor space, the cue ball is gently rebounded off the frozen ball not moving it, but with just enough speed to meet the other object ball which rocks in place, but does not change position. In 1912, William A. Spinks ran 1,010 continuous points using the chuck nurse and broke off his run without ever missing.[1]

There were a number of proposals to curtail the chuck nurse's effectiveness, including removing the four balk spaces on the end rails but leaving balk spaces in place on the long rails,[16] but the solution ultimately reached, and the change that brought the general rules of balkline into configuration with what is played today, was simply a doubling of the anchor space to 7 by 14 inches (18 cm × 36 cm), placing the chuck nurse out of reach. The new restriction was instituted for a 1914 tournamen
bbb, Howdy;

Well, always liked to follow leads. Found the Following, after it downloads go to pg. 204 or so;
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Championship_billiards_%28IA_championshipbill00that%29.pdf

Lots of good and some peripheral information as well. Lots of details an such.

hank
 
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there are "calls" the ref must announce , its for the audience mostly from whta i think ive been told

entre, dedans are the most used but once the small box is in play i dont remember it gets a little more complicated. the ref also has to call out the score time to time, its almost as hard to call a match as it is to play this game! lol
With two or three balls in the "Parker's Box", the referee will announce the balkline position first (for instance, "entree"), then the Box position (for instance "á cheval"). He will also let the player know if the cue ball and one of the object balls are frozen, and count down with five or fewer points still to play. A possible "call" would be: "Two-hundred and forty seven, entree-á cheval, playing for three, libre", which could be followed by something like "Two-hundred and forty eight, dedans-entree, playing for two". All that, quick enough to not disturb the player's rhythm. A balkline referee is not someone you just pick out of the crowd. These guys are craftsmen.
 
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