Bar Box 9-ball rack your own

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So I played in a bar box 9-ball tournament tonight and there was a player who would leave a gap (I dont know if it was on purpose) behind the 9-ball every rack and hit the balls really hard and the 9 would end up in front of a corner pocket. Of course the 9 on the break didnt count. I would say this player wins about half of his games by making the early 9 combo he sets up.

Has anyone else had this experience? I think it turns the game into a joke because you spend all your time trying to guard the combination.

I've had a similar experience before in a big table tournament with a particular player where it isnt rack your own but the way he hits the balls the 9 goes towards the corner even if you make sure the two balls behind the 9 are tight.

Anyways I lost my first set to him and met him again later and beat him because the next time I put all my effort into protecting that combination from happening.
 
Yes a long time ago it was rack your own and a young man made the 9 on the break and it was a win. His next break I check the rack and found a slight gap as you described. I let it go and the 9 came out and went straight at the corner and narrowly missed. It was winner breaks. My solution was don't let him break again. In 9 ball the magic rack will stop the rack mechanics angle.
 
This has happened in a lot of major tournaments as well. If you watch matches from the 80s, 90s, much of 2000s, the 9 ball tends to shoot towards the corner a lot. Back then it was considered a "good break" instead of a "bad rack" LOL.

That is why the template racks are pretty much the standard for racking now, any person off the street that has functioning hands can setup a good rack now with 2 minutes of practice. What's funny is that I still run into a lot of stubborn players that don't want to use them even when available, and often pay the price when the opponent makes the 9. Happened in a league match for me, one of my team-mates use a normal triangle to rack, the opponent made the 9 on the break hill-hill and won. One would think that would have taught them to not rack that way again, but nope, still uses the normal rack. Some people would take losing over listening to someone else.
 
gregcantrall said:
Yes a long time ago it was rack your own and a young man made the 9 on the break and it was a win. His next break I check the rack and found a slight gap as you described. I let it go and the 9 came out and went straight at the corner and narrowly missed. It was winner breaks. My solution was don't let him break again. In 9 ball the magic rack will stop the rack mechanics angle.
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The problem is its loser breaks so you can't keep him from breaking again.
 
When it is rack your own the other player has the right to inspect and demand a rerack. If that doesn't fly it is time to get the tournament director over even if it is just the venue owner.

I think everybody should have Joe Tuckers information he has put out. Super smart guy who has put a lot of effort into learning things.

My very short version for when someone else is racking for you. If the one is free of the other balls demand a rerack. If there is a gap on one side, break into the other side.

Finally, my best racking trick! If somebody else is racking go study their first rack for a minute or two. Without fail they will inquire if there is a problem. "No, just looking for something to exployeit."

Something about the way I say exploit makes them nervous and I never fail to get beautimus racks after that!

Hu
 
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