Bar Box straight pool

leaguedude

leaguedude

Elio D'Andrea
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Hi all,

I practice straight pool on my bar box all the time as my 9 footer is not set up yet. My question is how much harder is this game on say 9' gold crown compared to 7' valley bar box? My high run on the bar box is 71. I Haven't tried on a 9' yet. In your opinion do you think I should be able to achieve similar results on a 9' or lesser results.

I know the potting will be a little more demanding, but on a 7' table there are plenty of clusters, balls that do pass other balls, less room for position and angles.

Anyways, your opinions would be appreciated as i am relatively new to this great game.
 
i'd have to guess it's a lot harder. balls dont go as easy because the pockets are cut bigger and the slate doens't go as deep into them on the bar box.
 
If you are new to the game and really did 70 on a bar box, you should be shot. Seriously. Unless you are fibbing. If you really did, you need to get your bum to an instructor and then qualify for a 14.1 event.

Or you could try out for the Red Sox....
tim
 
I play mostly on Diamond 9' Pro tables, but sometimes I get to shoot on my father-in-law's 8' Olhausen. The difference between the two is amazing, and I actually believe the 9' Diamond might be easier. With the larger playing area the balls spread out a lot better and there is less chance of getting "locked up" and not having a shot. I have to shoot many more combos on the 8' than I do on the 9'.

Since a lot of shots in 14.1 are made in the lower two corner pockets or the side pockets, the overall larger size of the 9' doesn't seem to hurt my ball making, but the greater chance of clusters on the 8' absolutely hurts my pattern play.
 
stikapos said:
If you are new to the game and really did 70 on a bar box, you should be shot. Seriously. Unless you are fibbing. If you really did, you need to get your bum to an instructor and then qualify for a 14.1 event.

Or you could try out for the Red Sox....
tim
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Thanks for the words. I don't think 71 is that great, is it? Also, I forgot to mention that I have it on video. I recorded it with my laptop. I just dont know how to post it or I would. Can someone help me post it?

Im new to straight pool but i've been playing 9-8ball forever.
 
md5key said:
I play mostly on Diamond 9' Pro tables, but sometimes I get to shoot on my father-in-law's 8' Olhausen. The difference between the two is amazing, and I actually believe the 9' Diamond might be easier. With the larger playing area the balls spread out a lot better and there is less chance of getting "locked up" and not having a shot. I have to shoot many more combos on the 8' than I do on the 9'.

Since a lot of shots in 14.1 are made in the lower two corner pockets or the side pockets, the overall larger size of the 9' doesn't seem to hurt my ball making, but the greater chance of clusters on the 8' absolutely hurts my pattern play.
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thanks for your thoughts. I also was thinking the smaller surface would increase the difficultly. My potting is good on either surface.
 
71 is good... What format is the video in? I can try to host it for you.
 
md5key said:
71 is good... What format is the video in? I can try to host it for you.
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windows media file. I have it ready but not sure how to do it. thanks in advance
 
71 is very good. You should be able to get 100 on a 9 footer. But instruction is important in this game. Try to get some or read a decent book on the subject.
tim
 
man, if you can get 71 just starting out, then i have no excuse for only getting 38 and playing for 2 years :frown:
 
Thanks for your help. I usually buy the ppv's online to watch straight pool and 1 pocket. I watch how they do it and i try to do the same. lol. I will try to find someone to help me with straight pool soon but for now it's ppv learning for me.

Anyways, i'm trying to uploaded my run for some examination and criticism. My camera is old and crappy but does the job. Will post the link when i figure it out.
 
OneArmed said:
man, if you can get 71 just starting out, then i have no excuse for only getting 38 and playing for 2 years :frown:
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I've tried playing straight pool for 3 weeks now and i really enjoy it for practice sessions. I don't want to sound like a newbe at pool or something. I've been playing forever but i just didn't give straight pool a chance. Now that I have, I really like it and want to try to beat my run. I'm glad i have this community for reference, really great insight and experience. Your replies are appreciated.
 
I watched the video and have a question or two and some comments. First, was the ball a bar table ball or a regular billiards ball ? Either way, you pot the balls very well and have a very keen eye for patterns. You should have hit 100 easily the way you were going. I understood your last shot, trying to break up balls, but there were many in the rack and it was too early. You really need to work out on a tight diamond table with a 14.1 guru. Whether you are the next US Open champion or not is too early to tell, but your game is very, very good. At least offensively. Defense is a part of the game, too.

tim

p.s. how long have you been playing ? I saw finesse and an ability to move the rock very easily. Very uncommon.
 
I watched the video also. You're stroke mechanics are very good. You get through the cue ball very well. I find bar box 14.1 easier than playing on a 9 ft. table. Balls can be cut down the long rail much easier as pockets and rails are usually sloppy and because of that, bank shots are almost eliminated. On a nine foot table you can't get away with busting the rack wide open a majority of the time. You have to use more finesse as the pockets and rails are not as sloppy. I noticed a few shots you made that wouldn't have a chance on a 9 ft. table. Your shot selection was very good other than playing to the righty side of the table (you are left handed) for your break shots. The majority of the break shots you played to the righty side of the table would require a bridge on a 9 ft. table. As a defensive stratagey you need to keep in mind you what hand your opponent uses to take them out of their comfort zone. Leave them shooting over the pack using a bridge and get that foul.

Keep banging and having fun, that's what's important.
Paul
 
Great comments, Paul. Still, the man can control the rock. Nice little 3 inch draws, can do a lot without a lot of speed. The rest of it will come after someone drills a few things into his head, but I would die to make a ball dance and die like this..
tim
 
stikapos said:
I watched the video and have a question or two and some comments. First, was the ball a bar table ball or a regular billiards ball ? Either way, you pot the balls very well and have a very keen eye for patterns. You should have hit 100 easily the way you were going. I understood your last shot, trying to break up balls, but there were many in the rack and it was too early. You really need to work out on a tight diamond table with a 14.1 guru. Whether you are the next US Open champion or not is too early to tell, but your game is very, very good. At least offensively. Defense is a part of the game, too.

tim

p.s. how long have you been playing ? I saw finesse and an ability to move the rock very easily. Very uncommon.
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thanks for the comments. the balls are Aramith Premier and so is the cue ball(non magnetic). Your right i knew i didn't have to go for that kiss off, i got greedy and ended my run because of it. O well, next time i won't risk it.

I played daily from 15 years old till i turned 29. then i quit till i turned 34 and been playing daily since. I am now 37.
 
leaguedude said:
thanks for the comments. the balls are Aramith Premier and so is the cue ball(non magnetic). Your right i knew i didn't have to go for that kiss off, i got greedy and ended my run because of it. O well, next time i won't risk it.

I played daily from 15 years old till i turned 29. then i quit till i turned 34 and been playing daily since. I am now 37.
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and next time, play from the break. The right way. At least once out of five practice sessions. One doesn't always wind up with a break shot when trying to get into the balls. Good luck!
tim

p.s. 37 and still the hat on backwards ??? Hmmmmm. Aren't you supposed to be discovering Nat King Cole, Tony Bennett and Dean Martin ????
 
In my humble opinion A 9ft goldcrown would be easier to play on in comparison to a valley bar box, if you have run 71 on the tavern table it's a matter of time in that you clear 100 points on a real pool table. Bar box is more of a cueball game than it is a shotmakers game, breaking out a cluster so that another cluster developes due to lack of space is a little redundant I think. Because of the clusters and cramped space the tavern table does offer some additional challenges. But the bottoom line here is pocket billiards is a game of pocketing balls, and if a long shot is considered cuing up for a five foot shot then to me that is not pool. But if that was all I had to practice on I probably would.
Danny
 
Awesome.

Wow.

Honestly, I didn't think a barbox would allow a run of 71. That was amazing. Thanks for sharing.
 
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