ChrisBanks
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Baxter, hypothetically speaking, for what purpose would you go around doing that sort of thing?
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Baxter, hypothetically speaking, for what purpose would you go around doing that sort of thing?
ChrisBanks
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I'll give the short answer Baxter. Suppose you and I are in a discussion. You decide to say something offensive to me.
1. I will not be offended by whatever you have to say. I know that I have no control over what others choose to say. And I understand that choosing to be offended offers no benefit to me or anyone else. And since it is within my power, I choose not to be offended.
2. You, as the offender, have only committed an evil act towards yourself. You have damaged no one but yourself. For whatever your motive, you have attempted to use another individual as means to your end. But you have not harmed me at all, only yourself. And if you chose to apologize, or reconcile with me, you would not be helping me in the least. You would only be helping to repair the damage done to yourself.
And this is why you should not spend the whole day saying offensive things to me. Even though I will not be offended, you will be causing harm to yourself. This is why you should choose not to do it.
Bar pool /= real tourney style pool.
I spent well over a decade working in bars and have seen literally dozens of people get embroiled in an ass whipping trying to play real pool in a bar. Nothing against bar pool, but it just isn't the same thing.
Bar pool tips:
Shoot. Shoot every time you get to the table. If you are stepping up plan on firing at something.
Safeties are "chickensh&t pool" ( or n pool, depending on the crowd) and can get you in a fight. Play all offense.
Scratching on purpose is a direct challenge to fight. If someone does that to you they are calling you a b@tch to your face. Call it out and prepare to throw down or slink like a coward. No other options.
Ninety percent of the people you play won't want to gamble for actual money, they will want to (if anything) play for a beer. Oce you have won two beers it is ok to start the "I already have a few coming, let's just play for the two bucks..." line.
Again, play all offense. Don't pull any obvious safeties. Play two way shots at most, otherwise you risk an ass beating.
I spent well over a decade working in bars and have seen literally dozens of people get embroiled in an ass whipping trying to play real pool in a bar. Nothing against bar pool, but it just isn't the same thing.
Bar pool tips:
Shoot. Shoot every time you get to the table. If you are stepping up plan on firing at something.
Safeties are "chickensh&t pool" ( or n pool, depending on the crowd) and can get you in a fight. Play all offense.
Scratching on purpose is a direct challenge to fight. If someone does that to you they are calling you a b@tch to your face. Call it out and prepare to throw down or slink like a coward. No other options.
Ninety percent of the people you play won't want to gamble for actual money, they will want to (if anything) play for a beer. Oce you have won two beers it is ok to start the "I already have a few coming, let's just play for the two bucks..." line.
Again, play all offense. Don't pull any obvious safeties. Play two way shots at most, otherwise you risk an ass beating.
ChrisBanks
Banned
Hey Spider I have a way around that..... "Accidentally" jack up and fire the cueball off the table. No one will ever know the difference. Don't tell this secret to anyone else please!
you hit the nail on the head with this post. you reckon we hung out at the same bars ?
only works 2 times, after that they get wise :wink:
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El-ahrairah
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That's pretty smart. Probably seen that move with my own eyes and never realized it, haha
Maybe so lol!
It's the same everywhere though. Bar pool just is what it is.
Forgot one more rule: don't be "that guy" who brings his two piece or custom into a frigging bar to shoot pool.
If I'm out playing with friends, I will play whatever rules they want to. So many people are used to bar rules that they all want to play that way. I really dislike those rules as I don't think the incoming player should ever be punished by the other players scratch. I also believe scratching should cost that player more. I don't know the situation described here as the original post was removed, but it sounds like he pulled an "odd" shot after the other guy purposefully scratched.
I would suggest that if you go into another environment, then you should be prepared to play by their rules, and use te proper strategy for them. However, anytime someone purposefully scratches as strategy, they should be willing to accept any shot that comes back at them.
Personally I avoid places that play by these rules if I can because they just don't make sense to me, and I would never play competitively in the environment described by bhr. I really dont know the situation as described here altogether, but I do find the different sets of rules out there to be a challenge. Most commonly some of these crazy rules are to compensate for weak play. At the same time, one has to be prepared to play by the house rules of the place they are in.
I would suggest that if you go into another environment, then you should be prepared to play by their rules, and use te proper strategy for them. However, anytime someone purposefully scratches as strategy, they should be willing to accept any shot that comes back at them.
Personally I avoid places that play by these rules if I can because they just don't make sense to me, and I would never play competitively in the environment described by bhr. I really dont know the situation as described here altogether, but I do find the different sets of rules out there to be a challenge. Most commonly some of these crazy rules are to compensate for weak play. At the same time, one has to be prepared to play by the house rules of the place they are in.
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i never even had a cue till i joined leagues, now i have 8 and looking at getting a few more.
i still play in bars from time to time. i never take a cue into a bar until i figure what type of environment they have. i have noticed that a lot of strictly bar players carry cues in around here.
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I played a lot of bar pool years ago. I guess I have seen about every variation of rules. I have had guys shoot the cue ball straight into a pocket two or three times in a row. Not even attempt to hit a ball. There are a couple of ways to deal with this. If you have multiple balls in the kitchen, you can kick them safe all day until the do something stupid (more stupid than what they just did). You do not have to kick down table. You can kick to the side rail just outside the head string.
You can put the cue ball in the kitchen, roll it and barely tap your ball or freeze to it. Whoops, forgot to hit it. Then they will just scratch again. You can take the cue ball and shoot one of your kitchen balls in. Their shot.
The best way I have found over the years is to play by the rules. Before there was ball in hand, if all your balls were in the kitchen, the ball nearest the head string got spotted. When they shoot the cue ball in, I walk over, get the cue ball, then grab the nearest ball to the head string and roll it down the table. I start to setup like I an going to take a spot shot. At this point they will be looking at you like what are you doing. I just say, aren't you going to spot that or do you want me to.
They will then bring up the rules. Ask them how can it be possibly be a rule for me to be penalized when they committed a foul? Does the guy who commits a foul in basketball get a free throw of the guy who gets fouled? Does the team who goes off-sides get to pick up the football and move it towards their goal? There is always a penalty for a foul in every game and it always goes against the guy who does it. It doesn't make any sense to do it the other way around. The rules are there to make the game fair not the provide an advantage.
If you are playing with a reasonable person, they will see the sense of this and continue. This happens about half the time. Then there are those who will doggedly cling to their bar rules fantasy. Then I just tell them, that is not even a real game and I don't see any sense in playing. I lay the stick on the table and walk away.
Either way, as an ambassador of pool, in the wilderness of the ignorant masses, I have had my moment to educate them in a way that does not offend anyone.
You can put the cue ball in the kitchen, roll it and barely tap your ball or freeze to it. Whoops, forgot to hit it. Then they will just scratch again. You can take the cue ball and shoot one of your kitchen balls in. Their shot.
The best way I have found over the years is to play by the rules. Before there was ball in hand, if all your balls were in the kitchen, the ball nearest the head string got spotted. When they shoot the cue ball in, I walk over, get the cue ball, then grab the nearest ball to the head string and roll it down the table. I start to setup like I an going to take a spot shot. At this point they will be looking at you like what are you doing. I just say, aren't you going to spot that or do you want me to.
They will then bring up the rules. Ask them how can it be possibly be a rule for me to be penalized when they committed a foul? Does the guy who commits a foul in basketball get a free throw of the guy who gets fouled? Does the team who goes off-sides get to pick up the football and move it towards their goal? There is always a penalty for a foul in every game and it always goes against the guy who does it. It doesn't make any sense to do it the other way around. The rules are there to make the game fair not the provide an advantage.
If you are playing with a reasonable person, they will see the sense of this and continue. This happens about half the time. Then there are those who will doggedly cling to their bar rules fantasy. Then I just tell them, that is not even a real game and I don't see any sense in playing. I lay the stick on the table and walk away.
Either way, as an ambassador of pool, in the wilderness of the ignorant masses, I have had my moment to educate them in a way that does not offend anyone.