Bar Rules = Angry Cowboy

Anyways I hate bar boxes. I feel like I'm using some kids toy.

Ummm, have David Matlock a game on the kids toy and see how you feel about it afterward.

See, not much of a toy is it.
 
Really?

He didn't see it that way. So nothing was accomplished.

the guy obviously did see it that way as he was pretty PO'd about not having a shot.

It wasn't clever. It didn't "put them in a hard shot by their rules". Just walk into any bar and ask anybody of it's OK to shoot an object ball directly. No matter how drunk they are you know what the answer will be.

i beg to differ as i think it not only was clever but brilliant.

Frankly, it was a bonehead maneuver.

The guy intentionally scratched? Maybe. Where I have been that's calling you out to see if you have the gonads to back-up the accusation and the wherewithal to settle it.

what accusation???? the guy called him out not the other way around

Either deal with it directly or shoot your shot from in the kitchen.

seems like he dealt with it pretty directly to me

If you have trouble shooting at balls in the kitchen then go practice it so you can play it. If not, then just admit that it is a deficiency in your skill set.


I play regularly in a bar now and very often by some pretty "screwy" rules that the guys there like...and they change according to who I am playing. I just play it. I actually enjoy it. I am way past feeling superior to such crap and I assure you I once felt I was and had the game to back it up.

have you ever wondered why players that regularily play by standard, widely adopted and actually written in rule books types of rules, will agree to play the old fashioned "straight 8" way, but the old schoolers NEVER EVER agree to play our way. things that make you go....hmmmmm? might it be that the old schooler knows he needs the luck aspect of "straight 8" to have a chance most of the time?

There are plenty of screwed up rules for the leagues and the pros as well. We see them argued here all the time.


Pulling stupid stunts like that in a bar where you are the outsider is just dumb. It certainly isn't any great pool and it sure can be a lot worse than that. I wouldn't suggest trying that where I play. Rumor has it only one guy has been killed there, but from what I am told he deserved it.

must not have been too much of an outsider if the guy knew him to be a good player


Nice of you that you offer to teach. Are you willing to be taught? I mean important social lessons. Lesson one: Don't pull dumb maneuvers in somebody else's place. It isn't nice. If you don't want to play, don't play. And I would suggest not being judgmental about how people might want to play pool. It isn't your sport, you don't own it, nobody does. People can play how they like, and you don't have to play with t



Really?

He didn't see it that way. So nothing was accomplished.


It wasn't clever. It didn't "put them in a hard shot by their rules". Just walk into any bar and ask anybody of it's OK to shoot an object ball directly. No matter how drunk they are you know what the answer will be.

Frankly, it was a bonehead maneuver.

The guy intentionally scratched? Maybe. Where I have been that's calling you out to see if you have the gonads to back-up the accusation and the wherewithal to settle it.

Either deal with it directly or shoot your shot from in the kitchen.

If you have trouble shooting at balls in the kitchen then go practice it so you can play it. If not, then just admit that it is a deficiency in your skill set.

I play regularly in a bar now and very often by some pretty "screwy" rules that the guys there like...and they change according to who I am playing. I just play it. I actually enjoy it. I am way past feeling superior to such crap and I assure you I once felt I was and had the game to back it up.


There are plenty of screwed up rules for the leagues and the pros as well. We see them argued here all the time.


Pulling stupid stunts like that in a bar where you are the outsider is just dumb. It certainly isn't any great pool and it sure can be a lot worse than that. I wouldn't suggest trying that where I play. Rumor has it only one guy has been killed there, but from what I am told he deserved it.


Nice of you that you offer to teach. Are you willing to be taught? I mean important social lessons. Lesson one: Don't pull dumb maneuvers in somebody else's place. It isn't nice. If you don't want to play, don't play. And I would suggest not being judgmental about how people might want to play pool. It isn't your sport, you don't own it, nobody does. People can play how they like, and you don't have to play with them.



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in the U.S. there are many different sets of "bar" rules. for the most part they are geographically arranged....meaning they change from one area to another usually staying the same for at least say a quadrant of a state. i have played in probably half of the 50 states and i have rarely encountered the rule by which the incoming player determines ANY aspect of the rules of the game. it is virtually an exclusive right of the table holder to determine the game played and the rules played by. wanna change the rules or game?...win the table and it's all you baby.

Just to give you an idea of what it is like over here in the UK when I played in the local bar all sorts of various rule changes got made by the incoming opponent who put the coins in the pool table.for example :

1.The opponent puts the coins in & racks then say's if I pot the 8 ball from the break I won the game.
2.The opponent does as above but this time does heads or tails coin flip for the break then says if you pot the 8 ball off the break then that means It's a foul shot and they won the rack.
3.Incoming opponent puts the coins in and says 1st ball you pot is where the 8 ball has to go to win the rack.
4.The incoming opponent puts the coins in and says the last ball of your set potted is where the 8 ball must go.
5.Incoming opponent puts the coins in and states any bag for the 8 ball black when you have bagged your set of reds or yellows.

So it all depends on what your opponent wants as to the rules are to be when you are at the local bar here in the UK where I live anyway.sometimes I knew what was incoming and just quit and went home as it got to the point where the players wanted to play but they didn't want to play you if you dominated on the table at that time.:wink:
 
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in the U.S. there are many different sets of "bar" rules. for the most part they are geographically arranged....meaning they change from one area to another usually staying the same for at least say a quadrant of a state. i have played in probably half of the 50 states and i have rarely encountered the rule by which the incoming player determines ANY aspect of the rules of the game. it is virtually an exclusive right of the table holder to determine the game played and the rules played by. wanna change the rules or game?...win the table and it's all you baby.

i have found also that rules vary region to region, heck i have heard league bylaws vary region to region also.
most of my barplaying was confined to the east coast of fla... from daytona to ft lauderdale in my younger days. the rules were always pretty much the same except when you came across a " northerner". :smile:

to the op.... i think your move was more nitty than your opponents. i have encounterd that move many of times. heck one time in west palm beach i was on the 8 with it hanging by a pocket in the kitchen, we were playing for a 100.00. he diliberately pockets the cue ball without hitting one of his balls and then leaves the table laughing.

i just grin at him while retrieving the cue ball. i kick down to the end rail coming back up and pocket the cue ball. i then laugh while taking his money. i take it as they are scared of my game when they pull crappy moves like that. victory is sweeter when you beat them with your ability instead of dropping to their level.

i dont think there aint much i havent seen when it comes to bar room pool. from not so intentional scratches or safes to outright safes or scratches. i have seen guys deliberatley combo there last ball in with my ball hoping i dont run out and give them a shot at the 8. seen alll kind of shit but i loved the challenge.:thumbup:
 
quirky rules in money 9 ball games

Really?

He didn't see it that way. So nothing was accomplished.


It wasn't clever. It didn't "put them in a hard shot by their rules". Just walk into any bar and ask anybody of it's OK to shoot an object ball directly. No matter how drunk they are you know what the answer will be.

Frankly, it was a bonehead maneuver.

The guy intentionally scratched? Maybe. Where I have been that's calling you out to see if you have the gonads to back-up the accusation and the wherewithal to settle it.

Either deal with it directly or shoot your shot from in the kitchen.

If you have trouble shooting at balls in the kitchen then go practice it so you can play it. If not, then just admit that it is a deficiency in your skill set.

I play regularly in a bar now and very often by some pretty "screwy" rules that the guys there like...and they change according to who I am playing. I just play it. I actually enjoy it. I am way past feeling superior to such crap and I assure you I once felt I was and had the game to back it up.


There are plenty of screwed up rules for the leagues and the pros as well. We see them argued here all the time.


Pulling stupid stunts like that in a bar where you are the outsider is just dumb. It certainly isn't any great pool and it sure can be a lot worse than that. I wouldn't suggest trying that where I play. Rumor has it only one guy has been killed there, but from what I am told he deserved it.


Nice of you that you offer to teach. Are you willing to be taught? I mean important social lessons. Lesson one: Don't pull dumb maneuvers in somebody else's place. It isn't nice. If you don't want to play, don't play. And I would suggest not being judgmental about how people might want to play pool. It isn't your sport, you don't own it, nobody does. People can play how they like, and you don't have to play with them.



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I am trying to remember the pool rooms rules on 9 ball that evolved over the years please refresh me? I started out playing small cash games under some quirky rules in the 60's ty
 
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in the U.S. there are many different sets of "bar" rules. for the most part they are geographically arranged....meaning they change from one area to another usually staying the same for at least say a quadrant of a state. i have played in probably half of the 50 states and i have rarely encountered the rule by which the incoming player determines ANY aspect of the rules of the game. it is virtually an exclusive right of the table holder to determine the game played and the rules played by. wanna change the rules or game?...win the table and it's all you baby.

What you say makes sense. It's logical. But we aren't the "logical" species we think we are. It's not the way the world operates. I've been situations like the one described on this thread COUNTLESS times since 1955. I couldn't tell you how many times, I've said, "It's my table, we play by my rules", only to have my opponent say, "Oh no, you play by our (house) rules, or get the F out!"
 
have you ever wondered why players that regularily play by standard, widely adopted and actually written in rule books types of rules, will agree to play the old fashioned "straight 8" way, but the old schoolers NEVER EVER agree to play our way. things that make you go....hmmmmm? might it be that the old schooler knows he needs the luck aspect of "straight 8" to have a chance most of the time?

That must have been written backward because I'm quite sure all of us, "Old Schoolers" will play by whatever rules you care to make up on the fly.

When, one day, there is a standard to, "bar rules", then you can say, "play our way". Until then, please refer to this properly as, "Jimmy's PubnGrub on 12th Street Rules for games starting at 6:02PM on Tuesday." Otherwise we might get confused with "McGoorty's Banger Heaven on Gladstone Blvd rules for 9:07PM games on Wednesday" where we have to hop the 8 off the rail top in order for it to be a legal win.

We old schoolers get confused in our triple-digit years.




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This thread follows the familiar pattern:

Banger dares to want to compete with the King, the great grand master of all cue sports. How dare he! I will show him the error of his ways.

Said banger is totally broken and humiliated. Most likely he throws his black graphite cue in the trash as he slinks back to his friends, a shadow of the man he once was.

I am the King, no more of the filthy rabble will dare to challenge my reign as the King of all Kue sports.

The only thing missing is that on the way out the King winked at bangers gal and she runs after the King, saying she would no longer be with a lowly banger, she needed a man who knew how to wield his stick.

End of story.

I know, the guy was probably an a$$ and deserved it, but bar pool should be fun (and profitable)!
 

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So I am in a little country bar and a guy keeps wanting to play 8 ball with me.
I had no interest in playing. I was just visiting with a friend and I do not play bar rules, cue ball in kitchen, etc. but the guy keeps hounding me.

So I finally agree just to shut him up. I try to talk him into ball in hand but that was a no go. There is no money involved, he just wanted to say he beat me.

So I am down to the six ball and its in the kitchen. He hits the cue ball off his ball and scratches on purpose, it's blatant and obvious and then he starts the over acting routine " OH MAN... I scratched, dang it..." blah, blah, blah.

So I take the cue ball and place it in the in the kitchen in the jaws of the pocket badly corner hooked. Then I shoot my six ball with my cue straight down into the corner and say "your shot" so now he is pissed and starts ranting about "chickensh** pool" and me cheating etc. I told him if it were ball in hand I wouldn't be able to do that and the only difference between him and i is that i don't act like screwing him is an accident.

He tries to kick at his ball a million miles per hour and the cue ball rolls right up to the 8 for a short, straight in shot for me to win.

He said he would never play me again then went around the room muttering to everyone how "the big pool player" is nothing but a cheat.

I am still laughing.:grin:

My advice would be to avoid playing guys like that unless they are willing to play for some cash. Then at least if they are going around the room calling you a cheat you have their money in your pocket.
 
This thread follows the familiar pattern:

Banger dares to want to compete with the King, the great grand master of all cue sports. How dare he! I will show him the error of his ways.

Said banger is totally broken and humiliated. Most likely he throws his black graphite cue in the trash as he slinks back to his friends, a shadow of the man he once was.

I am the King, no more of the filthy rabble will dare to challenge my reign as the King of all Kue sports.

The only thing missing is that on the way out the King winked at bangers gal and she runs after the King, saying she would no longer be with a lowly banger, she needed a man who knew how to wield his stick.

End of story.

I know, the guy was probably an a$$ and deserved it, but bar pool should be fun (and profitable)!



I literally just laughed so hard I spit water I was drinking on the computer. That is funny dude.
 
So I am in a little country bar and a guy keeps wanting to play 8 ball with me.
I had no interest in playing. I was just visiting with a friend and I do not play bar rules, cue ball in kitchen, etc. but the guy keeps hounding me.

So I finally agree just to shut him up. I try to talk him into ball in hand but that was a no go. There is no money involved, he just wanted to say he beat me.

So I am down to the six ball and its in the kitchen. He hits the cue ball off his ball and scratches on purpose, it's blatant and obvious and then he starts the over acting routine " OH MAN... I scratched, dang it..." blah, blah, blah.

So I take the cue ball and place it in the in the kitchen in the jaws of the pocket badly corner hooked. Then I shoot my six ball with my cue straight down into the corner and say "your shot" so now he is pissed and starts ranting about "chickensh** pool" and me cheating etc. I told him if it were ball in hand I wouldn't be able to do that and the only difference between him and i is that i don't act like screwing him is an accident.

He tries to kick at his ball a million miles per hour and the cue ball rolls right up to the 8 for a short, straight in shot for me to win.

He said he would never play me again then went around the room muttering to everyone how "the big pool player" is nothing but a cheat.

I am still laughing.:grin:


Sounds like you mite be some what related to him..lol:grin:

What ever happened to having fun.Just because some else plays a little chicken $hitt dosnt mean you have to.If you truly played better then him
you wouldnt have to worry about what his game is like.:smile:
 
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Bar pool is like the special olympics of pool. Nothing more than a bunch of retards who create stupid rules to benefit themselves instead of looking up the actual rules and playing by them. I joined a league out here a few months ago. My first night at league, they hand me the rule sheet, and there's a rule that says "no japping". I had no idea what "japping" was, so I asked. Turns out, you can't play safeties. If you do play an intentional safety, you get kicked out of their league. Needless to say, I never went back. It's like playing football where you can't run the ball, you're limited to only passing. How much sense does that make?
 
Is the glass half empty, or half full? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

When the offensive statement comes, do you not have the power to react in any way you wish? So if you are offended, have you not chosen to be offended?

You have the choice of not being offended!

And thus, if you are offended, the fault lies with your very self, for you alone have the power to prevent it!
 
When the offensive statement comes, do you not have the power to react in any way you wish? So if you are offended, have you not chosen to be offended?

You have the choice of not being offended!

And thus, if you are offended, the fault lies with your very self, for you alone have the power to prevent it!

So I can go around saying whatever I want with no regard to offending anyone? After all, it's their problem they're offended right? I guess it's open season on everything. Holocaust jokes and blatant racism are fair game!
 
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