It depends a lot on if the rails are slow too for me. If they are I'll hit the 2nd ball from the head-spot ball to try and get a little more action from the balls...it's sort of like two breaks, one hard and as the QB comes off the side rail it knocks a few more balls around. Only problem with this break is if your breaking from the right you need a little low-left on the QB to prevent the scratch in the corner. Reverse of course if breaking from the left. Johnnyt