Barry Stark - Snooker Coach.. and elbow drop

[Bob Jewett]

Andddddddd... He's coached some of the top snooker talent in the world, whilst Americans are shitting ourselves at the Mosconi Cup for lack of basic fundamentals.

Yeah... I know who I'ma trust, fams......

Short Bus Russ

Do you find nothing that Stark says that is simply contrary to fact?

 

[Low500]

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[BeiberLvr]

In a different sport baseball I saw an interview with former MLB player Willie McGee who won a batting title and MVP. He said early in his career as soon as he reached the major leagues a coach tried to change his stance and he thanked another Cardinal coach Dave Ricketts for intervening on his behalf and telling the other coach to "leave that boy alone". He was good enough at hitting a baseball to make it to the major leagues and saw no need to change - and he was right.

I just started reading Tom Brady's book

In the first chapter, he mentions a man, who for the last 5 years has spent time with Tom going over his throwing technique.

Tom Brady. Future hall of famer. Multiple Superbowl and MVP winner. Was willing to take advice on his technique from someone, who undoubtedly doesn't have near the physical talents that Tom does.

 

[one stroke]

https://youtu.be/H5QrJGUocAo?t=86

I said this in another thread. Ronnie's elbow doesn't drop until after the cue tip has struck the cue ball. What the elbow or any other part of his body does after the cue tip has struck the cue ball is 100% meaningless. If Ronnie sprouts wings and flies around the pool hall after the cue tip strikes the cue ball it has zero impact on where the ball goes.

Part 2 of the conversation is what works for one person might not work for another person. Proof of that is how many different stances and strokes world class players have. A great example is Oliver Ortmann, world champion 9 ball and multiple world champion straight pool player. He shoots sidearm - the most exaggerated sidearm stroke I can think of in a top player - and it works for him.

In a different sport baseball I saw an interview with former MLB player Willie McGee who won a batting title and MVP. He said early in his career as soon as he reached the major leagues a coach tried to change his stance and he thanked another Cardinal coach Dave Ricketts for intervening on his behalf and telling the other coach to "leave that boy alone". He was good enough at hitting a baseball to make it to the major leagues and saw no need to change - and he was right.

Therefore Ronnie's elbow doesn't drop until after the cue tip has struck the cue ball so it doesn't matter and even if his elbow did drop earlier the balls go in the pocket so it still doesn't matter.

There is always a exception to the rule very very few major league players don't use a batting coach just like very few golfers don't employ a instructor including well just about every top player on the planet

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[hang-the-9]

Oh myyyyy! Barry Stark, quite possibly the greatest snooker coach ever, analyzes the elbow drop in Ronnie O' Sullivan's stroke, and suggests this is the optimal stroke, if your body mechanics allow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5QrJGUocAo

Flame on!!!

Short Bus Russ

LOL, I watched an Ozone ad that showed someone making off the rail shots and was trying to figure out why the post and the video did not match till I saw "Skip Ad" on the screen. Must be past my bedtime.

 

[SFC9ball]

Here is what I tell my students right from the beginning: I am going to show you some techniques that can help you achieve a better stroke which will in turn will help you pocket more balls. I then tell them that they can use everything I teach them or some of it or none of it, it is up to them to experiment and figure out what works for them and what doesn't.

The key is putting in the table time and working on the stuff that an instructor gives you. A lot of people give up on the "new stuff " too soon because they don't see the "instant results" or "they not comfortable with it" so they think there is no value to it and give up on it.

I have a student coming back 9 months after he took his 1st lesson. He didn't implement a lot of the stuff that I showed him. His game went up a lot just off of the stuff he implemented but was still lacking some consistency. Now he is wanting me to teach him the stuff again and more.