Basic Layout. 9 Ball. What do you do from here?

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GC3. Regular pockets. Pool room grade cloth. Basic layout after the break. Opponent made the 1 and scratched. You have BIH. How do you attack this table?

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Going from the 7 to the 8 i would get near the rail under the 7 and come down to the 8 1 rail with left english. The 7 is too close to the pocket for me to want to 3 rail shape on the 8 although it's still doable.

going from the 4 to the 5 i dont like the 2 rail follow because to get shape for that it puts you in more danger of getting behind the 9 ball and also the 6 may cause problems so 1 rail bring it back for the 5 seems easier imo.
 
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klockdoc said:
GC3. Regular pockets. Pool room grade cloth. Basic layout after the break. Opponent made the 1 and scratched. You have BIH. How do you attack this table?

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I'd go 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9, but of course everybody plays different.

pj
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Yeah, it looks like drill of 1 rail shape shots.

Head spot shape for the 3 and 4, Center spot shape for the 5 and 6, Foot spot shape for the 7, and bring it down to the rail for the 8 and 9.
 
Going from the 7 to the 8 i would get near the rail under the 7 and come down to the 8 1 rail with left english. The 7 is too close to the pocket for me to want to 3 rail shape on the 8 although it's still doable.

The 8 is the only semi-difficult ball, alright.

But I wonder why you'd aim for a 1-foot shape zone when you've got the whole table to work with. I'd plan for a thin cut on the 7, like this (there's also no need to go three rails):

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pj
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The 1 rail shot you show seems safer and the route most choose just.. i dont like messing with a straight up and down shot with the corner pocket there and me having to stop so near the corner to maintain shape for the 9. I dont feel as comfortable with that shot as these 2. I feel I can control the cueball better on these 2 shots. Just personal preference although i'm sure most would prefer the one you show.

Looking at the diagram I listed here for the 7 to 8 looks really dangerous on this cuetable but I shoot this shot quite often and it's not as scary on a table as this seems. Hell looking at this makes me not want to try it either :D

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Everything posted prior to the 7 is exactly how I would handle things. Stay out of trouble, maintain an angle, keep it simple. The 7, however, is where I differ from y'all. It's hard to judge exactly how I would play it because it's a diagram and not an actual table. My inclination is to try and go three rails with bottom right since that will give me the best chance to get a small angle on the 8 but I'm not sure if it's off the rail enough to pull off. If it's not available, going one rail seems to work.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Everything posted prior to the 7 is exactly how I would handle things. Stay out of trouble, maintain an angle, keep it simple. The 7, however, is where I differ from y'all. It's hard to judge exactly how I would play it because it's a diagram and not an actual table. My inclination is to try and go three rails with bottom right since that will give me the best chance to get a small angle on the 8 but I'm not sure if it's off the rail enough to pull off. If it's not available, going one rail seems to work.

Yea the 3 rail angle is genrally the highest % shape which is why i mentioned it as well just with the 7 being so close to the pocket it requires a lot of cueball action to get the angle to avoid scratching in the lower corner pocket after the second rail and the other options seem more controlled.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I'd go 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9, but of course everybody plays different.
pj
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Although this ranks of one of the top answers given today, along with ScottyCoyote 2-9 combo (sorry, Jude. You have to be faster. LOL) and probably the one I would chose in most instances, I have another suggestion for you all to ponder on. 7,2,3,4,5,6,8,9

Since the 7 to the 8 is the biggest concern in this rack and being that all that responded have a fair "game" behind them, What about the suggestion of shooting the 2-7 combo first?

The rest of the shots are fairly simple from there. The 6 will bring you down in line with the 8/9.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
ha make the 2, 2 rail shape for the 3 while making the 7 in the path of the shape. why not :p
 
klockdoc said:
Although this ranks of one of the top answers given today, along with ScottyCoyote 2-9 combo (sorry, Jude. You have to be faster. LOL) and probably the one I would chose in most instances, I have another suggestion for you all to ponder on. 7,2,3,4,5,6,8,9

Since the 7 to the 8 is the biggest concern in this rack and being that all that responded have a fair "game" behind them, What about the suggestion of shooting the 2-7 combo first?

The rest of the shots are fairly simple from there. The 6 will bring you down in line with the 8/9.

What are your thoughts on this?


If the 7 is closer to the pocket...that may be a decent option.

Where it is located...I would not do it...Why???

If you catch it a little off...you will still make the 7 but the 2 could end up in lousy position to get on the 3...

I think the 3 is the first "key" ball to be on...(the other is correct position on the 7)......everything else in the rack is pretty much a no brainer.

I would rather use the advantage of BIH on the 2 to get on the 3...(there are some "hooked" locations wating in the bushes around that 3 ball)

:)
 
klockdoc said:
GC3. Regular pockets. Pool room grade cloth. Basic layout after the break. Opponent made the 1 and scratched. You have BIH. How do you attack this table?

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To me, it's execution and planning to not get straight in on the 7-ball. And, I also think that a 3-railer on the 7-ball to the 8-ball is the pattern I'd be playing for. I'm not sure why others think it wouldn't be.

Fred
 
klockdoc said:
GC3. Regular pockets. Pool room grade cloth. Basic layout after the break. Opponent made the 1 and scratched. You have BIH. How do you attack this table?

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Here are a few mor options on getting to the 3 ball. I would probably use the first one, and a tip high to get position on the 3, but I would be comfortable shooting any of them, in addition to the one posted earlier starting on the headspot and coming off the head rail.
 
Fred:
I also think that a 3-railer on the 7-ball to the 8-ball is the pattern I'd be playing for. I'm not sure why others think it wouldn't be.

For me, the reason is that the one-railer makes me more sure of getting close to the end rail for nearly straight shape on the 8 and easy shape on the 9.

pj
chgo
 
I like drawing back and spinning down for shape from the 2-3 with BIH. This allows me to comfortably control angle and ensures I can still get out if my speed is off.

I also like playing for the center of the table on 7 and using the 1 rail follow all the way down the rail. The angle is good, so I don't have to worry about the scratch and can just hit it with good pace.
 
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