Money purses to the level of Golf and Tennis. Please... not in our lifetime.Weak sauce.![]()
Money purses to the level of Golf and Tennis. Please... not in our lifetime.Weak sauce.![]()
I would tend to agree, unless there was something instituted like a few other major sports have, such asPete Rose
Banished
Pool needs to start banishing peoplefor cuase!
Pool certainly is not better than baseball in terms of image and integrity!
My point is that Jesus was verbal mistreated! His abuser has zero punishment for his behavior and nothing in the works!
Just my opinion!
Let's not forget the Robb saez situation and the Carlo Biado situation on a critical shot!
History tells no lies!
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I agree. Sadly. But I agree. Pool and billiards, being as old as it is, is still in the toilet in the US. I guess we could all just be in APA and BCA leagues forever and happy with the crumbs that fall from the table.Money purses to the level of Golf and Tennis. Please... not in our lifetime.
It's in the toilet globally compared to Golf and Tennis. Are you intentionally trying to single out and bash America? If Matchroom keeps doing what they are doing we will see some incremental growth. The Billy Thorpe's of the game having drunken outbursts aren't going to move the needle one way or the other since no one except the cult following is watching.I agree. Sadly. But I agree. Pool and billiards, being as old as it is, is still in the toilet in the US. I guess we could all just be in APA and BCA leagues forever and happy with the crumbs that fall from the table.![]()
I’ve actually had many people tell me that pool is “easy” and “a bar game”. I think that’s part of the problem too. Non players don’t understand the skill level it takes to run racks, shoot defense, etc. Take golf, for example. It’s player outdoors, against the elements, on courses that bend and twist, with sand traps. It looks difficult. And it is. But it’s a game that looks like it takes a great level of skill. Pool doesn’t. Flat table. Piece of wood, fancy or not, with a piece of leather on the end. Whack a white ball into a colored or striped ball, and into one of six pockets on a small table. Where’s the challenge in that? No elements, no twists and turns, no sand traps, nothing. The average person doesn’t understand the physics and geometry that makes up the beauty of the game. That’s what we as a pool community have failed to do - make the common man understand that pool is an art and a science, and that’s why we love it, and if you understand it, it’s a beautiful thing to behold a great player make it look super easy. That’s the failure on our part, as promoters.Pool is the fringe. Boring AF to the vast majority
Okay, sounds like you are up for the task at hand.I’ve actually had many people tell me that pool is “easy” and “a bar game”. I think that’s part of the problem too. Non players don’t understand the skill level it takes to run racks, shoot defense, etc. Take golf, for example. It’s player outdoors, against the elements, on courses that bend and twist, with sand traps. It looks difficult. And it is. But it’s a game that looks like it takes a great level of skill. Pool doesn’t. Flat table. Piece of wood, fancy or not, with a piece of leather on the end. Whack a white ball into a colored or striped ball, and into one of six pockets on a small table. Where’s the challenge in that? No elements, no twists and turns, no sand traps, nothing. The average person doesn’t understand the physics and geometry that makes up the beauty of the game. That’s what we as a pool community have failed to do - make the common man understand that pool is an art and a science, and that’s why we love it, and if you understand it, it’s a beautiful thing to behold a great player make it look super easy. That’s the failure on our part, as promoters.
You've been here what 7 weeks, and stir up this kind of BS.An eyewitness was telling the story of someone going wild again during a gambling match. I hope it’s not true, but if it is, not a good look, at all.
You do realize that snooker players make an ass-load of money, right? That’s a billiard sport. Ran by great organizations. With their own issues over the years, yes, but overall super respectable and heavily promoted. I’m American so no I’m not bashing America. I’m just pointing out the obvious.It's in the toilet globally compared to Golf and Tennis.
What’s the problem with that picture? Can you clarify? Is it the diversity of the people, or…?Here's a big problem:
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A select few snooker players make an ass-load of money... The rest make money by doing all kinds of things... from selling cues, to... throwing games...You do realize that snooker players make an ass-load of money, right? That’s a billiard sport. Ran by great organizations. With their own issues over the years, yes, but overall super respectable and heavily promoted. I’m American so no I’m not bashing America. I’m just pointing out the obvious.
What’s the problem with that picture? Can you clarify? Is it the diversity of the people, or…?
Reading is fundamental. My main point, for the Cliffs Notes version so you won’t hurt yourself reading, is that I hope the young professional gets help, because I can relate to alcoholism, having grown up in an alcoholic home.You've been here what 7 weeks, and stir up this kind of BS.
You do realize that snooker players make an ass-load of money, right? That’s a billiard sport. Ran by great organizations. With their own issues over the years, yes, but overall super respectable and heavily promoted. I’m American so no I’m not bashing America. I’m just pointing out the obvious.
What’s the problem with that picture? Can you clarify? Is it the diversity of the people, or…?
See you later!!I’m American too, jackass. Jeez.
That’s what I expected. The ones who talk the most, do the least. Good job!
Talk the most meaning the one who typed many, many words of gibberish many times in this thread? The record shows that would be you.That’s what I expected. The ones who talk the most, do the least. Good job!![]()
Been in an action bar or two and there was always the culture clash. Never got beyond hilarious references; more like a sit com. The Mcready in question included.I remember Keith Mcready woofing at some filipinos to gamble at a tournament in CT in the early 2000s. Pretty sure he looked over at us, smiled, and said something about getting these Filipinos to gamble. Didn't think it was racist and didn't think the Filipinos thought so either. Times change I guess, not necessarily for the better.
And Billy Thorpe is not the norm in the U.S. So double standards?Your examples of the fringe aren’t the norm in Europe.
Golf biggest star, by far, publicly cheated in his wife, sought treatment for sex addictio, then got high on pain pills and wrecked his car. Arguably Golf's second biggest star has admitted to losing MILLIONS ON GAMBLING.Sure, Euro league has had its issues, as has Darren and Ronnie, but again, that’s not the norm. Just like it’s not the norm in most places for outbursts in sports outside of “professional” wrestling.
what does this even mean? Name one individual sport that doesnt eat their own.Your judgment that I’m doing anyone a disservice is your opinion only, I meant no such thing. But if you want to be truthful, convince me that the reason US pool can’t grow is because we eat our own. That’s the real problem.
get out more. I have met room owners who hold fundraisers for the homeless, offer free pool for youths...I have met bar owners who open their coin operated pool tables for entire weekends to promote pool, the pool industry is full of people who would give you the shirt off their backs...they just don't get as much notice as the others.There are a very, very few selfless - or at least not completely selfish - people I’ve met in the industry, but they’re few and far between.
you are so off here that i dont know how anyone could explain it so you would understand... Pool is not, and never will be, on the same level as golf or tennis. It is on the same level as bowling, rythmic gymnastics, darts, and cornhole.And the real tragedy of it all is that the selfish masses far, far outweigh the selfless few. And that in a nutshell is why pool will never have the money purses of golf or tennis.
Again, how the heck are we eating our own? What are US players doing that other nationalities aren't? Name me one US player that gambles more than the average Filipino. Does pool have an image issue there?We’re just a school of piranha who’ve developed a taste for other piranha, eating our own.
Golf 50x more alcohol abuse.Do you think there's more alcohol abuse in golf or pool?
The world needs a few more John Daly's in it...Golf 50x more alcohol abuse.
We should be playing for entertainment, the love of the game. None of us should even be thinking about making a living off pool.I agree. Sadly. But I agree. Pool and billiards, being as old as it is, is still in the toilet in the US. I guess we could all just be in APA and BCA leagues forever and happy with the crumbs that fall from the table.![]()