BCA better get hiring!

Celtic

AZB's own 8-ball jihadist
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I have been thinking about the competition for players that the BCA and the new ACS are going to have. Taking Calgary for an example because it is where I used to be from you have Players Pool leagues, run by Ted Harmes. Now he is going to next year run his league under the banner of the CCS and ACS and not allow BCA sanction. ATM unless some new organization moves into Calgary to push a BCA sanctioning league there is going to be no choice for the players but to play in Players and sanction ACS. This is only one city, and in many of the cities of North America the major league promoter of the city have followed suit and joined up with the ACS in order to keep their own affairs their own. There are therefore going to be large areas that the BCA is going to have to hire people and set up their own legue systems, it is going to take alot of people and alot of advertising and marketing money to make it work and keep the ACS from taking the lions share of the player base.

Another thread had a person say that the ACS is the unknown entity, but it is just not so. It is the legue operators in each city that the players know, they dont deal with the BCA, they deal with the Players Pool Leagues of their city, that is who they know and that is who they will contact next year to enter their team into league unless the BCA makes their new organizations in each city really well known and really apparent. Even with the marketing and system in place the players are going to be asked to join a new and different league run by someone different then their old league opperator, this is going to take some seriously sweetened pot to draw the players from what they know. If anything this is the year, after Mark has blown however much he already blew on the purchase of the BCA he needs to spend alot more to make sure everything is set up and available in all the former BCA cities that may not now have a participating league, and he is going to need some serious advantage to playing the new BCA over the new ACS and that may be as simple as a boatload more money thrown at the tourney in vegas. Sweeten the prize pot and give the players the ability to play for it and he will win the war, anything less and I think the BCA is in trouble and will lose alot of former BCA areas.
 
I feel that Mark will be making some announcements soon. Just relax sit back and see what he has come up with.


Eydie


I got the following e-mail on Saturday.

Mailer from BCA Pool League Headquarters: Saturday April 17, 2004

We are seeking suggestions for recommending knowledgeable billiard enthusiast for the BCA Pool Leagues advisory board. If interested Recommend yourself or Recommend an individual. We are looking forward to hearing your suggestions.

Big Improvements from the BCA : April 16, 2004

Colorado Springs, CO - According to Billiard Congress of America (BCA) President John Stransky, "The Billiard Congress of America couldn't be more optimistic about the recent transfer of ownership for the BCA League System. Mark Griffin is the new owner, and he has the players' and league operators' interests first and foremost in his mind and in his plans."

The transfer of ownership will occur on June 1, 2004. May 14-22, 2004, Mr. Griffin will take part in the BCA National 8-Ball Championships and will be meeting with players, league operators, BCA State Association officials, referees and vendors, both formally and informally (his daily schedule will be posted at the BCA check-in desk). While none of the league policies, procedures or fees will change, Mr. Griffin has many plans to improve the BCA League System and is open to ideas to increase player participation and satisfaction.

BCA Executive Director Stephen Ducoff said, "The Billiard Congress of America staff from Colorado Springs will be checking in players, distributing player gift bags, handling roster changes and, most importantly, paying out an expected $800,000 in prize money. Play will be organized and kept on track by Mr. Gary Benson and his tireless staff from High Country Promotions. Mr. Roger Glenn, recently named as the BCA Director of Referees, will coordinate and supervise the nation's premier referee staff."

"Change is never easy, but it's exciting," said Mr. Griffin. "The BCA League System is no exception. I encourage everyone with a question, concern or comment to talk with me and visit our website (www.bcapoolleague.com) to find out as much as you can about my experience, dedication and respect for the sport and the players."

As a trade organization, the BCA will continue to work toward its vision to make billiards the number-one participation sport in the world. Through the International Billiard & Home Recreation Expo and programs for BCA Juniors, Billiard Education Foundation Scholarships, Instructors and continuing education, the BCA trade organization is dedicated to providing its members with exceptional service by promoting and growing cue sports worldwide.

For additional information on the BCA Trade Organization, please visit www.bca-pool.com.
For additional information on the BCA League System, please visit www.bcapoolleague.com.
 
Celtic said:
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If anything this is the year, after Mark has blown however much he already blew on the purchase of the BCA he needs to spend alot more to make sure everything is set up and available in all the former BCA cities that may not now have a participating league, and he is going to need some serious advantage to playing the new BCA over the new ACS and that may be as simple as a boatload more money thrown at the tourney in vegas. Sweeten the prize pot and give the players the ability to play for it and he will win the war, anything less and I think the BCA is in trouble and will lose alot of former BCA areas.

Thanks for bringing your opinion to the 'table'.

I surely hope that the Canadian pool players are intelligent enough to make a 'good decision'.

For all the Canadian players that have been contributing to the BCA local, regional and national events. "Where do you think that money will go now?"

Will the CCS and ACS retain all that money? Or will the money remain in the BCA coffers?

Do you really think the CCS and ACS will provide the same level of Championship competion, offered in Vegas, with the same amount of payoffs? Check the numbers. See how many of the BCA affiliated members are leaving the BCA to join the CCS or ACS. Right now, it's not that many, maybe it will be more. Maybe NOT.

One of the orgs will eventually FAIL, for lack of membership and or leadership. There seems to be a lack of loyalty qualities to its players and current members in the newly formed ACS. My perception of the ACS board is this, "They are made up of former BCA members that didn't have what it takes to get what they wanted, so the easy path was to quit and form their own organization." To me this is a sure sign of weakness and even less quality for leadership.

This years BCA tournament is still scheduled, and the money is still there.

What will the ACS and CCS offer? other than a promise to take your money and hope that you will trust them.
 
Celtic said:
I have been thinking about the competition for players that the BCA and the new ACS are going to have. Taking Calgary for an example because it is where I used to be from you have Players Pool leagues, run by Ted Harmes. Now he is going to next year run his league under the banner of the CCS and ACS and not allow BCA sanction. ATM unless some new organization moves into Calgary to push a BCA sanctioning league there is going to be no choice for the players but to play in Players and sanction ACS. This is only one city, and in many of the cities of North America the major league promoter of the city have followed suit and joined up with the ACS in order to keep their own affairs their own. There are therefore going to be large areas that the BCA is going to have to hire people and set up their own legue systems, it is going to take alot of people and alot of advertising and marketing money to make it work and keep the ACS from taking the lions share of the player base.

Another thread had a person say that the ACS is the unknown entity, but it is just not so. It is the legue operators in each city that the players know, they dont deal with the BCA, they deal with the Players Pool Leagues of their city, that is who they know and that is who they will contact next year to enter their team into league unless the BCA makes their new organizations in each city really well known and really apparent. Even with the marketing and system in place the players are going to be asked to join a new and different league run by someone different then their old league opperator, this is going to take some seriously sweetened pot to draw the players from what they know. If anything this is the year, after Mark has blown however much he already blew on the purchase of the BCA he needs to spend alot more to make sure everything is set up and available in all the former BCA cities that may not now have a participating league, and he is going to need some serious advantage to playing the new BCA over the new ACS and that may be as simple as a boatload more money thrown at the tourney in vegas. Sweeten the prize pot and give the players the ability to play for it and he will win the war, anything less and I think the BCA is in trouble and will lose alot of former BCA areas.
It seems to me that i read somewhere that SML got the award for sending the most teams and players to VNEA again last year.Playerspool league can only dream of having as many players.I can see SML getting bigger yet.
 
almer said:
It seems to me that i read somewhere that SML got the award for sending the most teams and players to VNEA again last year.Playerspool league can only dream of having as many players.I can see SML getting bigger yet.


How does SML sending even more teams to the VNEA help the BCA? Maybe SML could become the main sanction for the new BCA and send more teams to BCA instead of the VNEA I guess.

I surely hope that the Canadian pool players are intelligent enough to make a 'good decision'.

The whole point is I hope there will be the possibility to make the choice and not be pigeon holed into one of the two just because the other is absent.
 
Celtic said:
How does SML sending even more teams to the VNEA help the BCA? Maybe SML could become the main sanction for the new BCA and send more teams to BCA instead of the VNEA I guess.



The whole point is I hope there will be the possibility to make the choice and not be pigeon holed into one of the two just because the other is absent.
I think SML already has a dual sanction,BCA and VNEA.I guess what im saying is they are an option fr ted harms new league.
 
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