BCA Nationals/US Open ball sets

Dopc said:
---. On the stream there was mention of the balls having a 2-5mm layer of clear coat to them, I wonder if this clear coat wouldn't somehow alter aim perception in some fashion.

Personal gripe:
Just what the sport needs, more variance in how equipment plays.............

Dopc.
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That is exactly what I thought it looked like when they first showed how the balls looked like. I was thinking that the finish would crack eventually.
 
I have a friend who played in the open 9 ball, and he said it threw off his focus a little bit. I guess when you're used to playing in a certain color pattern, then throw new off-colors into the mix, it can become a bit of a distraction.
 
(((Satori))) said:
What is the relationship between Cyclops and Diamond?
Anyone know?
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Their balls are on their tables? I think it's more of how CSI got involved with them, but I'm guessing that would be "you can have a ton of ball sets for free" and maybe "here is some money".

That could be thought of as "we're selling out to the Chinese" (already on the way to being done everywhere though), or as a new stream of pro tour and other tournament money. I would not mind a nice dozen pro events like the Camel tour, even if the ad space is for Shun Chung Chunks, the real panda bear bites you love to eat!
 
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JuicyGirl said:
Orange and red still look alike. There's another set with the pink color... I don't care what color the darn balls are but some folks I know could really use the extra cue since they can't read the number printed on the side.
Hope you bca guys kickbutt inn any coor

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Nine of the balls are pretty traditional colors, just six are different.

Lou Figueroa
 
Dopc said:
As previously mentioned, they are Cyclop brand balls. I had never heard of them until the stream yesterday. I did a quick search and found very little information on these balls.
I too, am curious of how they play compared to the line-up of Aramiths offerings. On the stream there was mention of the balls having a 2-5mm layer of clear coat to them, I wonder if this clear coat wouldn't somehow alter aim perception in some fashion.

Personal gripe:
Just what the sport needs, more variance in how equipment plays.............

Dopc.
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hmmm, no. The only way you can really perceive the finish is on the Cyclop CB on which you can actually see the shadow of the logo reflected in the ball.

Lou Figueroa
 
carter1984 said:
I second what Royce said. We had a set of these balls on our table at the BCA Summit and they seemed to play just fine.

I'm curious to hear more feedback from the players in Vegas though.
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IMO they play fine, different, but fine. I feel they play a tad more lively than Aramiths and perhaps take a little less English at slow speeds. But it is impossible to know until they wear a bit. Overall I was impressed: no ball roll off and slightly fewer skids than what traditionally happens with Aramiths at these things.

There is reason to believe that if you're old enough to remember the old original Centennials you will like these balls :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
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carter1984 said:
I second what Royce said. We had a set of these balls on our table at the BCA Summit and they seemed to play just fine.

I'm curious to hear more feedback from the players in Vegas though.
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Frost was saying in the stream tonight that he really liked how the balls play.
 
Dopc said:
As previously mentioned, they are Cyclop brand balls. I had never heard of them until the stream yesterday. I did a quick search and found very little information on these balls.
I too, am curious of how they play compared to the line-up of Aramiths offerings. On the stream there was mention of the balls having a 2-5mm layer of clear coat to them, I wonder if this clear coat wouldn't somehow alter aim perception in some fashion.

Personal gripe:
Just what the sport needs, more variance in how equipment plays.............

Dopc.
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I very much doubt that they have 2-5mm of clear coat on them. I don't know about these balls but I can 100% guarantee you that there are balls made in China that you and no one else on the Earth can tell the difference between them and Aramith balls based on how they play.

I have a little experience with this having sourced balls several years ago.
 
Just watched the 9 ball finals with my son, he said "why would they use such odd balls, I am afraid I'll mess up and shoot at the wrong ball during Nationals" hehe.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Just watched the 9 ball finals with my son, he said "why would they use such odd balls, I am afraid I'll mess up and shoot at the wrong ball during Nationals" hehe.
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Then tell him to focus more. Back in the day they had dozens of different ball sets and you could run into any of them in different pool rooms.
 
Before Aramith ruled the world there was a company called Hyatt that did the centennials for Brunswick... Word on the street is that the formula for these ball may have come from there.... They are supposed to be very high in phenolic and low in fillers and will have a sticker price that Aramith is going to cry over....

They also have very tight tolerances in size and weight which is to be expected for a high quality set.....

I played with them for awhile in Tunica on the TV table after we shut down the streaming for the nights.... I like em.....

Chris
 
JB Cases said:
Then tell him to focus more. Back in the day they had dozens of different ball sets and you could run into any of them in different pool rooms.
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I'm guessing the younger kids are more worried about missing the shot and not tripping at the table in front of their parents and other kids than trying to figure out which ball is the 6.

It will probably be fine for them, since they will looking around the table and be confused by the colors so will have to look at the numbers anyway. I think the issue is with the 4-5-6-7, when watching the stream I could not easily figure out what ball was what. They do look neat, but add another layer of un-needed complication.
 
hang-the-9 said:
I'm guessing the younger kids are more worried about missing the shot and not tripping at the table in front of their parents and other kids than trying to figure out which ball is the 6.

It will probably be fine for them, since they will looking around the table and be confused by the colors so will have to look at the numbers anyway. I think the issue is with the 4-5-6-7, when watching the stream I could not easily figure out what ball was what. They do look neat, but add another layer of un-needed complication.
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I understand. My point was to use it as a learning opportunity. Instead of allow ing him to be distracted and possibly upset by the balls he thinks are stupid see if you can help him understand that conditions are what the are and he is the one who can adapt and overcome.

When something different is seen as a challenge to master rather than an excuse to fail then I believe a person comes out stronger in the end.

A year or so ago I used to be upset at the cloth here. Like playing on ice. My friend Kelly Fisher was also having problems with it. I told her to buy some and put it on her table and really get to know it. She did and started winning events in China. So one day I thought what am I doing, I have the cloth here all the time. So I said I am going to find the fastest table and put some hours in figuring it out and I did. Now I don't use the cloth speed as an excuse for losing anymore.
 
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