Are the G10 and WhiteD tips "leather, fibrous, or pliable material"? It is possible that phenolic will be regarded as an example of what is excluded, rather than the only thing...
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BCA Ruling on Phenolic Tips
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That is a truly terrible idea. What banning them on break cues but not jump cues does is simply add a grey area of uncertainty into the rule book, and that is the last thing this game needs is more rules that are subjectively available to be manipulated.
Now people will have to wonder. How long is a jump cue? Can I use a full length "jump cue"? What if I use a jump cue that is 52 inches long, don't get height on the shot yet get a good hit, is that a good hit? So I can use a 52 inch "jump cue" for breaking?
Because as it stands right now the cue and gimmick industry in billiards is doing everything in their power to create products that walk a fine line of legallity according to the rule books and products will be developed to take advantage of this discrepancy between "jump cues" being able to have Phenolic tips and break cues not being allowed to have such.
Beyond a few people being VERY vocal on the forums about this topic (and I do mean a FEW) most people were ok with all cues requiring a leather tip, and this makes it possible to make a far more concrete and objective rule
"All cues must have a tip composed of leather"
Simple, straight forward, and MOST IMPORTANTLY not subjective or open to interpretation.
Come on BCA, realize that allow of the issues and crap arising is exactly BECAUSE the rule book is getting more and more subjective and not putting out simple, objective, and conrete rules.
Make it required that ALL tips used in the game of billiards be composed of leather and be done with it already!
One would not need to argueAs it is written, ALL phenolic tips are banned regardless of which cue it is on.
True! ...but read the contradictory statement from Bill Stock, in which he said that "jump cues will not be affected." This exclusion needs to be inserted into the rule book.
Well said, you have no idea how much I hope this go this simple and well defined route.
Well honestly, I don't think it really matters what he says.. As long as the Official Rulebook states that phenolic tips are not allowed, they are NOT allowed; playing cues, breaking cues, jump cues, any other cue. Obviously unless otherwise specified, but that does not seem to be the case.
It may have been his/their intention not to affect jump cues, but the way it reads states otherwise.
HA!!!!
Im not saying I won but back in May when we first heard the rumor and I took it upon my self to and i quote, write "emotional posts" and "whine" about the new ruling. Bill said himself that as of June first all phenolics were banned no matter what cue and nothing could be done to change this becouse the books were already in printing. I moaned bit#$ed and took the verbal lashing form those that cant and or wont jump see "hard headed" and from those that want to keep the game in its antique heritage. I heard everything form it was my games fault I cant jump with leather to I need to learn how to kick. I hard insults from people who know nothing about MY game. Either way I took it with stride and purpose and here we are almost two months later and the BCA is still thinking about adjustments. I love this. It makes me think they actually listend and realized it ISNT a small majority of us that jump with non leather materials and dont want to see the game kept in the dark ages.
Sorry guys but it looks like the squeky wheel might get the grease in atleast some fashion. Please keep us updated. I would be interested in seeing a diffrent result to try to accomidate the players.
Im not saying I won but back in May when we first heard the rumor and I took it upon my self to and i quote, write "emotional posts" and "whine" about the new ruling. Bill said himself that as of June first all phenolics were banned no matter what cue and nothing could be done to change this becouse the books were already in printing. I moaned bit#$ed and took the verbal lashing form those that cant and or wont jump see "hard headed" and from those that want to keep the game in its antique heritage. I heard everything form it was my games fault I cant jump with leather to I need to learn how to kick. I hard insults from people who know nothing about MY game. Either way I took it with stride and purpose and here we are almost two months later and the BCA is still thinking about adjustments. I love this. It makes me think they actually listend and realized it ISNT a small majority of us that jump with non leather materials and dont want to see the game kept in the dark ages.
Sorry guys but it looks like the squeky wheel might get the grease in atleast some fashion. Please keep us updated. I would be interested in seeing a diffrent result to try to accomidate the players.
THANKS BCAPL FOR LISTENING, WE APPRECIATE IT
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G10 is made from the core of meteors that make it to Earth. It's a combination of iron and an unamed super element. I will let you all know as my test yield more descriptive results.
It is not a majoritty at all from what I have seen, instead a small minority led by a giant squeeky mouthpiece of a wheel, you.
Any official resolution posted on this subject yet?
