Bees wax alternative
- Thread starter efirkey
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You can buy it at a craft store , pure beeswax in the candle section, however it's not as user friendly as the blue sticks.
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Scottster
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efirkey said:
Wouldn't call it the "alternative" use Bondo.
nun ya
I get mine from local bee keepers. $3-$4/ pound if they don't give it to you.
I get mine from local bee keepers. $3-$4/ pound if they don't give it to you.
Scottster said:
See some of the other threads on this topic. Most mechanics feel that bondo is definitely NOT a good alternative.
wakuljr said:
Do you sell it?
efirkey said:
Google Search: Sacramento Bee Keepers Supply..
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Scottster
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Let me rephrase myself, My Tablemechanic is competant and very proficient using bondo.Club Billiards said:
If there is any doubt the job is not gonna be done right the first time then use beeswax to ease the fixing of the F&%k up.
Dont use it anymore and nomore gobacks. Bondo is so simple to use it is actualy quicker to use if you know what your doing.
Dont let the Bondo fully harden let it sitt for a few minutes then use a 4" razor blade\ scraper the plane \scrape of the bondo, if it gets to hard then your stuck block sanding unless you have great skills with a belt sander or a finish sander either one I highly dont recomend. The wrong angle and you remove the slate before the bondo..
Accuracy = speed = less time = more money = less go backs = more customer by word of mouth = Ferrari Testarossa = NOT
Craig
Dont let the Bondo fully harden let it sitt for a few minutes then use a 4" razor blade\ scraper the plane \scrape of the bondo, if it gets to hard then your stuck block sanding unless you have great skills with a belt sander or a finish sander either one I highly dont recomend. The wrong angle and you remove the slate before the bondo..
Accuracy = speed = less time = more money = less go backs = more customer by word of mouth = Ferrari Testarossa = NOT
Craig
Scottster said:
My concern (and many other VERY qualified mechanics) is that with bondo, you'll have a tough time getting the table apart if you ever have to move. It can chip the slate when you pull the pieces apart and if you do have center slate screw holes in the playing you can pretty much count on replacing those slate screws to get the table back together. Not saying your mechanic isn't competent. Just pointing out some of the disadvantages. I'm sure if there was a universally perfect material, we'd all be using it and there would be no discussion.
If you put the slate's together tightly there's a very thin line of Bondo in the seaming of the slate's, it' not piled on top of the slate and feathered out. You use it as a crack filler to smoothen out the slate'simperfections Ie. a seam...I wil post some pictures if Glen didn't alreadyin previous thread on how to level slates the right way.....To saperate the slates with Bondo its a trade secret.... unscrew the end slates use a razor blade to score the seam then use a screw driver and place it between the wood backing of the slate tappet with a hammer or twist it a little then the seams pop apart. If there is any chipping it so tiny when put back together Bondo smooth it out again and you have a perfect seam for years to enjoy..
If the person is renting and the table will probably be moving alot then...
1. A good shooter use Bondo
2. If they are just occasional players then I use bees wax to keep it quick and easy on take down and reassembly.
3. Bondo, Durhams and wax all take the same amount of time to apply on assembly but durhams takes the longest to dry and clean up and doesent stay together very well.
4. center slate screw's I putt wax or paper over the screw heads then fill in the hole this way the screwhead doesn't get messed up.
One thing to do is write on the slate if there is no srew being used under the filler what ever you use it makes it easier on the next installer and keeps slate repair's to a minimum.
Felt pens are an installer's best friend when it comes to comunications on how a table was repaired ie broken slate screw's, rubber was installed, screw's used not used this way someone can fix it the right way when taken apart and serviced for a greater satisfaction on the customer's behalf..
Just my 2 cent's worth of frustration on an old myth's about Bondo and other fillers....
Craig
If the person is renting and the table will probably be moving alot then...
1. A good shooter use Bondo
2. If they are just occasional players then I use bees wax to keep it quick and easy on take down and reassembly.
3. Bondo, Durhams and wax all take the same amount of time to apply on assembly but durhams takes the longest to dry and clean up and doesent stay together very well.
4. center slate screw's I putt wax or paper over the screw heads then fill in the hole this way the screwhead doesn't get messed up.
One thing to do is write on the slate if there is no srew being used under the filler what ever you use it makes it easier on the next installer and keeps slate repair's to a minimum.
Felt pens are an installer's best friend when it comes to comunications on how a table was repaired ie broken slate screw's, rubber was installed, screw's used not used this way someone can fix it the right way when taken apart and serviced for a greater satisfaction on the customer's behalf..
Just my 2 cent's worth of frustration on an old myth's about Bondo and other fillers....
Craig
n10spool said:
I think that's a VERY good point. I couldn't agree with you more. No matter our differences in techniques and what's in our individual bag of tricks, if we are all aware of the different techniques and can communicate if we've done something out of the ordinary, it save us ALL a lot of aggravation. You can always tell the difference between the guys that assume that someone ELSE will be the next one to work on a particular table, and the guys that assume that THEY will be the next one to touch it. A little more pride is taken in the latter case and you usually do see a little Sharpie somewhere on the table! LOL
Great point, Craig.
wakuljr said:
Maybe something to consider.
pern13
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club billiards... just a thought.mueller probably sells it look on page 113 of their catalog 3.25 for 1/3 lb.(enough for 2-3 tables). sorry josh just having fun. know your normal sources are out of bulk wax. call me if i can help u out you have my cell#. p.s. i saw your helper tonight he looks wore out do you ever take a day off...
pern13 said:
Can't take time off work. Every time I get caught up and put a couple bucks in my pocket, the work van breaks! LOL Maybe if that helper would pull his own weight (so to speak) we'd get done faster = more $/hr! LOL
The wax from Mueller's is weird it melts to easy and crumbles when you scrape it off with a razor blade knife. Not a big fan of thier wax I just tried for the first time on the last 4 tables I did it worked but took 4 times longer to work with, it acts like it doesn't want to stick to the slate new or old. This is why I think Bondo is still best less of a hassle to work with but both do have the good and bad points..
Craig
Craig