Being Considerate

What is inconsiderate?

  • Breaking 1 second after they lift the rack

    Votes: 57 85.1%

  • Leaving the chalk upside down on the rail

    Votes: 42 62.7%

  • Letting the same partner break/shoot first everytime

    Votes: 13 19.4%

  • Standing in someones shot line

    Votes: 43 64.2%

  • Moving around in someones shot line

    Votes: 57 85.1%

  • Texting/On phone when it's your turn

    Votes: 50 74.6%
  • Total voters
    67
dfweyer

dfweyer

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Just curious what everyones take on "being considerate" in a game of pool means.

I questioned a friend's intentions during a cheap scotch doubles 8 ball, race to 3.

Now I'm not real keen on the rules of scotch doubles, but always thought it was fair to take turns breaking or shooting first on each team. But my friend and his much better partner took advantage of this, as the better player would sink the 8 and break the next game.

Now all that I'm familiar with is golf in that when it is alternate shot, it continues throughout the match whether a hole is finished (i.e. they make the putt, then I tee off). Taking an advantage in having your long driver tee off every hole would provide a significant advantage. For odd scores (3,5) then the contribution would be a lopsided 60/40+

Is this inconsiderate? Is there a rule against this?

Rant is nearly complete... at the start of the match, they stopped to discuss every shot...but I had the impression that "we know how to play pool" and should play our own game.
 
"considerate" is a pretty ambiguous term. Sorry to say.

Can't say I always am, but it's one of my 'goals' going into any event.


td
 
I understand Scotch doubles rules means every other shot regardless of when a rack is over or not. The only exception would be on a returned push after the break. If Hatch were teamed with wimpy lil Sally Slightbust and he broke every time their team had a break, that would not be acceptable.
 
The thing about who breaks in a double match isn't a matter of consideration, it's a matter of the rules. The rules, which should be confirmed before the match, generally dictate that the end of a game and the break for the next game should follow the same "whose shot is it" rule as the rest of the game; in scotch doubles if player A sinks the winning ball then player B breaks, and in regular doubles if player A sinks the winning ball then player A breaks.

Most of the other poll options are inconsiderate, to varying degrees. I think standing still when on somebody's shot line and putting the chalk down upside down are pretty harmless, whereas the others are quite rude.

-Andrew
 
I left 3 out when I checked the ones I thought were inconsiderate.

leaving chalk upside down. While it's considerate to leave the chalk righside up, I don't necesarily think it's inconsiderate to leave it upside down. While some people are quite anal about this, I think it's thier OCD problem and not something for people to get worked up over.

Standing in someones line of sight. Same as above..... sometimes you just don't have a choice.

3rd... I'll fill in when I go back and check what it was... brb edit ---> oh yeah, letting the partner that's a better breaker break all the time. This just makes good sense and is in no way inconsiderate, the object of the game is to win. Only people on the losing end of the stick might think that's inconsiderate, but they'd be wrong.
 
"Breaking 1 second after they lift the rack". Do this to me and I might whip your ass. I haven't a clue what makes people do this but its grounds for a beating. IMO
 
I hate when I rack and my opponent doesn't wait for me to move out of the way to break. I've seen someone receive a flying cueball in the face and I don't really want that to happen to me.
 
I don't care where someone stands or if they do jumping jacks while I'm shooting, but get to the table when it's your turn to shoot....I don't LIVE at a poolhall, and I wanna PLAY as much as I can when I do finally get to one. So, no 10 minute gab with your buddies cigarette breaks (outside, since there is a ban in IL), and talk on your phone and text when it's NOT your turn at the table....AAAARGGHH! I hate that!!
 
Your poll and question are 2 different topics. Everything in your poll are inconsiderate and/or bad sportmanship.

Who breaks in scotch doubles is a matter of strategy. Just because I sank the game winner doesn't have any bearing on the rotation in the next game. The next game is another game and the intention is to win. That also applies to the other team. The same rotation does not have to follow.

If I am a weak player it may be to my advantage to break. If I make a ball then my partner may have a better chance of getting us into some position on the next shot or playing a safe if needed.

Or maybe my partner has a good controlled break where there is a good chance of leaving me with a good starter. The same strategy exists for the opponent. They might want to change rotation on how the balls lay on their first shot.
 
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