Best chicken wing shooters?

[CeaseLess]

I've had a chicken wing for my entire pool life. It feels so strange having a straight forearm now that my arm twists and twitches. So I'm trying to study the stroke of great players that had a pronounced, not slight, outward chicken wing stroke. Any players yall can think of?

 

[sneakynito]

not necessarily chicken wing but Bustamante is loose as a goose.
Richie Rich is another monster that comes to mind with a less than conventional stroke.

 

[Lowell]

Carlo Biado seems to sort of have one

 

[skogstokig]

only current 800 with chicken wing i can think of is xue zhenqi

 

[Bob Jewett]

Carlo Biado seems to sort of have one

He also turns his hand in and uses a great deal of wrist.

 

[Chili Palmer]

Not sure if it's official chicken wing but I've seen Nick Varver's arm shake like 9.2 earthquake.

 

[middleofnowhere]

I've had a chicken wing for my entire pool life. It feels so strange having a straight forearm now that my arm twists and twitches. So I'm trying to study the stroke of great players that had a pronounced, not slight, outward chicken wing stroke. Any players yall can think of?

So it's not to have any confusion, what is actually defined as a chicken wing?

 

[Bob Jewett]

So it's not to have any confusion, what is actually defined as a chicken wing?

Cue stick closer to your body than your elbow. Soufi and McCready are the opposite -- side arm.

 

[skogstokig]

Cue stick closer to your body than your elbow. Soufi and McCready are the opposite -- side arm.

oh yea, that's what it's called. so soufi isn't a chickenwinger

 

[skogstokig]

denis grabe then?

 

[Bob Jewett]

I've had a chicken wing for my entire pool life. It feels so strange having a straight forearm now that my arm twists and twitches. So I'm trying to study the stroke of great players that had a pronounced, not slight, outward chicken wing stroke. Any players yall can think of?

I think you want to just work on bringing your stick straight through, regardless of the angle of your arm.

 

[Bob Jewett]

denis grabe then?

Here's a shot of Denis. His hand is maybe very slightly inside of vertical.

 

[GideonF]

I think you want to just work on bringing your stick straight through, regardless of the angle of your arm.

I think I have mentioned this before, but there is a video of Willie Hoppe giving instructional advice and he’s advocating a side arm hold and that the stroke should come from the shoulder, not the elbow. It seems crazy (given modern mechanics) but he seemed to be able to play a bit.

 

[middleofnowhere]

Cue stick closer to your body than your elbow. Soufi and McCready are the opposite -- side arm.

Okay thanks I was actually thinking of it as like Keith but yeah I know what you're talking about and I've seen that a lot of times. Remember one guy who's entire wrist curled so far inward that the cue was almost above his wrist

 

[skor]

As long as the cue moves in a straight line, everything else doesn't matter.
if you have problems doing that, just loosen your grip a bit and everything else will most likely fall into place.
How loose?
Just let the cue sit on your fingers without touching the palm, something like that:

 

[bbb]

Just let the cue sit on your fingers without touching the palm, something like that:
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not sure you will see many pros like that OR instructors recommending that
jmho
icbw

 

[skor]

not sure you will see many pros like that OT instructors recommending that
jmho
icbw

try it before knocking it.
things and recommendations always change. Like open bridge has become more popular these days. Even the post here on Hoppe instructional.
Bottom line you have to find what works for you and not what some instructor say, experiment.
For me, gripping like that makes my stroke straighter and I'm more accurate on those long shots on a 9ft with tight pockets. My power draw also works better.

 

[Chili Palmer]

try it before knocking it.
things and recommendations always change. Like open bridge has become more popular these days. Even the post here on Hoppe instructional.
Bottom line you have to find what works for you and not what some instructor say, experiment.
For me, gripping like that makes my stroke straighter and I'm more accurate on those long shots on a 9ft with tight pockets. My power draw also works better.

It's also very helpful if you use either a slip-stroke or stroke-slip.

 

[garczar]

So it's not to have any confusion, what is actually defined as a chicken wing?

Agree, got no clue wtf he's talking about. A good stroke is one that you own and repeats under the gun. How it looks doesn't mean shit.

 

[bbb]

It's also very helpful if you use either a slip-stroke or stroke-slip.

that's a different scenario