Best cue ball that works with a barbox

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mnShooter

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Our local league is looking for a better cueball to use in the major tournaments. I am wondering if there is a good quality cueball that would work with a valley or couger table.

Right now they are using aramith with the blue symbol on it and they kinda suck.
 
Its probablly more the table then it is the cueball. You should feel lucky that they supply an Aramith cue ball. Most of us have to use that crappy Black dot!
 
Maybe it's not an aramith, might be a valley. Here is a picture of the current one used.
 

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Oh crap... Its a black dot! Yeah it sucks! I'll be watching this thread too...

btw... Its an Aramith ball
 
Blue dot, red dot etc... has no instert and therefore will not return down the cueball path(doesnt catch the magnet) I have experimented with a couple Belgian cue balls with inserts but all seem to play horrible. I think they are too heavy.
 
mnShooter said:
Maybe it's not an aramith, might be a valley. Here is a picture of the current one used.
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It is an Aramith cue ball, the Tournament Magnetic, and it is designed, according to Aramith, to react like a regulation cue ball. This is accomplished by using metal wrap in the perimiter of the ball instead of a metal plug at the core.

If the owner is looking to get the best peformance on the tables for a tournament, I would advise that the tables be covered with good cloth in good condition, and he may want to consider charging a flat greens fee instead of collecting by the game, open the tables, and use a regulation cue ball like Brunswick Blue Circle, a Red Circle, or an Aramith Pro Cup "measles" cue ball. One place that I've been to approached the problem this way. Three regulation cue balls are provided for each table, and whoever scratches the last one puts in the quarters to get them back!
 
We opened the tables and charged green fees. Then used a red circle cue ball instead of the valley ball. It's worth considering since all of those quarters are not needed for change.

The Aramith ball pictured is much better than the old valley balls but to me is still not a very good ball.

Rod

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mnShooter said:
Maybe it's not an aramith, might be a valley. Here is a picture of the current one used.
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You've got the best one for the Valley and Dynamo ball returns currently used.

I'd suggest to open up the tables.

Fred
 
The tables all get new cloth once a year and are more level than any other tables I've played on. I like the idea of using a red dot and just paying green fees instead.
 
One place that I've been to approached the problem this way. Three regulation cue balls are provided for each table, and whoever scratches the last one puts in the quarters to get them back![/
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There would be one problem there if cue balls are taking up space in the galley there would not be enough space for ALL of the object balls to fit. Then when you drop the quarters for the next game you would not get all the balls to drop since they are not all behind the drop bar. Only 15 balls fit behind the bar. Your system would work fine for 9 ball. But it would not work if an 8 ball table had been all cleared and there had been a scratch.;)
 
rackem said:
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There would be one problem there if cue balls are taking up space in the galley there would not be enough space for ALL of the object balls to fit. Then when you drop the quarters for the next game you would not get all the balls to drop since they are not all behind the drop bar. Only 15 balls fit behind the bar. Your system would work fine for 9 ball. But it would not work if an 8 ball table had been all cleared and there had been a scratch.;)
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It's never happened in my presence, but it's the kind of thing that's bound to happen a few times, and your point is logical and valid. Thank you!

P.S.--The place where I encountered this was more of the nature of a club for a group of skilled players who saw the need to play with a regulation cue ball based on their experience in competition throughout the Caribbean region. As such, I think it would be less likely that there would be three scratches in any one game, and much less with only one or two balls remaining. I can certainly see where it would occur regularly between bangers.
 
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It doesn't matter, they're still crap cue balls. Once the finish wears off, they'll write all over the cloth like a piece of chalk. They still develop a 1000 little flat spots all over them in time, and believe it or not...cut one in half and you'll still find a metal plug in the center because without it...they'll miss returning to the cue ball end of the table. I'd rather look for a straight rolling cats eye cue ball before I'd play with one of them cue balls. But, contact Level Best, as they have a magnetic cue ball with a black lighting bolt on it, it has a metal spring in the center of it, and the finish won't wear off.

Glen
 
Everybody stick together and have the bar open the tables and use a proper cue ball without any weights, magnets or other garbage. That's what we do in my part of the world. In fact most bars know that if they don't open the tables, they won't have a turnout and thus, no tournament.
 
Better yet, talk the bar owners into getting the Diamond smart tables which already use the red circle cue balls...LOL

Glen
 
I'm guessing you don't own a bar. Some play pool, most don't.

It's tough to tell bar owners to open their tables... In my part of the world, the tables are owned by the "amusement” concession guys. The folks who own the pin-ball machines and the like. Good luck telling them to open their machines. Not going to happen.
 
For all these reasons, this is why the Diamond bar table is so superior to anything made prior to it. How about real pool with a real Cue ball? The biggest part of their business today is replacing Valley tables in bars across the U.S.
 
jay helfert said:
For all these reasons, this is why the Diamond bar table is so superior to anything made prior to it. How about real pool with a real Cue ball? The biggest part of their business today is replacing Valley tables in bars across the U.S.
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Jay...don't forget replacing Dynamo's, and Globals as well...as ALL other bar tables...LOL

By the way, we first met at the Hollywood Park Casino tournament back in Oct 2000 if you remember right, I was with Greg, Chad, and Mark.

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
Jay...don't forget replacing Dynamo's, and Globals as well...as ALL other bar tables...LOL

By the way, we first met at the Hollywood Park Casino tournament back in Oct 2000 if you remember right, I was with Greg, Chad, and Mark.

Glen
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At the first LA Expo, right? You played in that tournament as well, if I remember correctly.
 
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