best shaft for easier backspin

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smashmouth

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so yeah my stroke has gone to hell and I simply don't play enough to keep in form so looking to cheat a little, I want a shaft and/or shaft tip combo that imparts maximum English specifically backspin

any suggestions would be appreciated
 
Anything that's literally not a broomstick. Lol, you should be able to play just as well with any house cue and a halfway decent tip than any custom or production shaft. Just keep that in mind. While it's nice to have fancy cues and the latest tech in your case, you can't buy a stroke. I know that sounds cliche, but it's true.
 
Not to be smart it's the stroke that imparts the draw and all english. I know some tips and shafts might allow for more but is that really in your head or not. If your stroke isn't right, how are you going to control the english once you get it? Unfortunately there is no substitute for time on the table.
 
For most people draw (all english) seems to be quite easy to
get with a 314-2 or 314-3 shaft. Controlling it is a little tougher
because these shafts do not give much feedback but they do
juice the ball well.

A decent tip helps too, a G2 medium or Ultraskin medium for example.

gr. Dave
 
got it:wink:

some tips and shaft do in fact impart more spin though, if you have a recommendation , let me know
 
Can't agree that it's all stroke.

Going from a generic cue to my playing cue made a huge difference in English - went to a 12mm shaft with a Kamui soft tip. It reduced both the distance from cue ball center and how hard I had to hit to get the same draw or English.

My cue BTW is a Lucky (McDermott's cheap sticks).
 
Halfjack87 said:
Can't agree that it's all stroke.

Going from a generic cue to my playing cue made a huge difference in English - went to a 12mm shaft with a Kamui soft tip. It reduced both the distance from cue ball center and how hard I had to hit to get the same draw or English.

My cue BTW is a Lucky (McDermott's cheap sticks).
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Sounds like stroke to me, especially getting good action on a soft hit AND you are used to your player.
 
philly said:
Sounds like stroke to me, especially getting good action on a soft hit AND you are used to your player.
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No, let me reword for clarity - going from a 13mm generic-tip shaft to a 12mm Kamui soft tip shaft, the same stroke gave me so much more English that I had to reduce my stroke, and reduce distance from cue ball center for the same effect.

The importance of the stroke is not in debate, but I've experienced a very real difference going to the 12mm shaft with the soft tip.
 
Halfjack87 said:
No, let me reword for clarity - going from a 13mm generic-tip shaft to a 12mm Kamui soft tip shaft, the same stroke gave me so much more English that I had to reduce my stroke, and reduce distance from cue ball center for the same effect.

The importance of the stroke is not in debate, but I've experienced a very real difference going to the 12mm shaft with the soft tip.
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As I always say "whatever works, good on ya." Keep hitting them well and enjoy your time on the table.
 
slider12 said:
Tonto........its not the arrow
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I agree with you, slider, but many still disagree. Some will continue looking for the silver bullet and the pool industry likes that. About the only thing I can say about a playing stick is that you have to feel comfortable with it or Tonto will over think.
 
So what the experts here seem to be saying is that reducing the shaft to 12mm does not benefit cue ball control, and likewise I suppose, a 13mm shaft does not benefit long, straight shots. Tip hardness also makes no difference.

You just have to be good, and use whatever works for you..

:rolleyes:
 
Lighten your grip dude. Probably stiff arming it. Relax and feel like you're throwing the cue through the cue-ball. I can draw it the length of a GoldCrown with a wallybushka. It aint the cue brother. Relax and throw the cue, don't guide it.
 
I recently went back to a linen wrap cue after using a wrapless for the last 6 months or so. I'm having all sorts of control issues with low english that I didn't have before and at first I though it was the shaft going from 13mm maple to 12.25 LD but it didn't quite make sense... I realized the grip pressure I was using on my wrapless cue would cause my linen wrap cue to come out of my hand and I was unconsciously death gripping the cue. In my case it was the equipment, but not the part people look to first when issues arise.

TLDR - it's the stroke.

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Seriously

Although the above posters are correct that a good stroke is the key. To say that equipment doesn't have a bearing is incorrect to say the least. With any decent tip and shaft a good stroke will allow the player to draw the cue ball, however anyone who has played any substantial amount of time can attest that some shafts and or tips draw more or easier. With the same player and using the same stroke different equipment will have different results. Please stop its the stroke its the stroke because the shaft and tip do have a impact. I could give any good player a decent cheap cue and given a little time to get used to it they could play well with it, this is where having good mechanics and a solid stroke come in.
 
" I could give any good player a decent cheap cue and given a little time to get used to it they could play well with it, this is where having good mechanics and a solid stroke come in."

This is the gist of the matter. Getting used to your player. It's called consistency. I have tried different shafts and I ended up calling the guy that made my cue to make me a shaft exactly like the one it came with. They have the same taper, tip, everything. I can play with them interchangeably and am consistent because I am used to them.
 
Anything Meucci works pretty good. they play with alot of flex in the shafts making it pretty easy to use backspin.


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