best tip for a firm stroke

hlymnstr14

hlymnstr14

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if you like to hit the balls hard, is there a tip out there that someone recommends? it seems like a harder tip would be needed because the soft tip may compress too much. i just recently installed a kamui black SS and i love it for moving the cue around the table. however, on a long straight in shot where i need to draw the cue back, it just seems like the tip gives too much and can't generate alot of spin. maybe i'm trying to hit it too hard.

also, i'm not talking about a break shot, just a tip for a playing cue.

thanks.
 
hlymnstr14 said:
if you like to hit the balls hard, is there a tip out there that someone recommends? it seems like a harder tip would be needed because the soft tip may compress too much. i just recently installed a kamui black SS and i love it for moving the cue around the table. however, on a long straight in shot where i need to draw the cue back, it just seems like the tip gives too much and can't generate alot of spin. maybe i'm trying to hit it too hard.

also, i'm not talking about a break shot, just a tip for a playing cue.

thanks.
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As a gemeral rule: a softer top like the kamui black ss for example makes it easier to make a draw shot than with a much harder tip.

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ratta,

i totally agree on a shorter shot but on those 7ft straight in draw shots, i always feel like i need to increase the power. maybe i'm hitting too low and too hard. i'll experiment hitting higher up and with a softer stroke. thanks.
 
hlymnstr14 said:
ratta,

i totally agree on a shorter shot but on those 7ft straight in draw shots, i always feel like i need to increase the power. maybe i'm hitting too low and too hard. i'll experiment hitting higher up and with a softer stroke. thanks.
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i dont believe your problem is the tip. I believe what is happening is as you hit harder there is a tendency to lose accuracy in your tip placement and you are probably hitting the cue ball above where you think you are. Also hitting higher and softer will absolutely not increase your draw.
 
Ratta said:
As a gemeral rule: a softer top like the kamui black ss for example makes it easier to make a draw shot than with a much harder tip.
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I do not believe this is true, nor that it is a rule.

For example, I can pot a ball 4 diamonds away and back it up 11 diamonds without touching a rail (in the first 7 diamonds of draw) with a hard tip. How much more draw can anyone use? profitably?
 
ding, ding, ding! Winner, winner, chicken dinner. quadrary has the CORRECT answer. :thumbup: Tips don't draw the ball...a great stroke draws the ball...every time! Give a pro player (someone perhaps like John Schmidt) a broom, and he will draw the ball to China!

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

quadrary said:
i dont believe your problem is the tip. I believe what is happening is as you hit harder there is a tendency to lose accuracy in your tip placement and you are probably hitting the cue ball above where you think you are. Also hitting higher and softer will absolutely not increase your draw.
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MitchAlsup said:
I do not believe this is true, nor that it is a rule.

For example, I can pot a ball 4 diamonds away and back it up 11 diamonds without touching a rail (in the first 7 diamonds of draw) with a hard tip. How much more draw can anyone use? profitably?
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Well pal:D

I m able to draw 1 1/2 to 2 table lengths with a hard tip and with a soft tip as well. Just shown up with this as a thumb rule. With a soft tip u have a bit more contact time as the tip is a bit more compressing at contact/impact. Even if u hit the cueball just for about 1/1000 of a second it still makes a lil difference. Ofc also talking about quality tips (no matter layered or non layered tips). Grip is always im portant....and the accelleration/stickspeed as well, too.

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Moori med

I like a Moori med cuz it's got a sweet tink to it if it's a good tip...my installer compresses it in a vice before installation, and it hits really good
 
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