Best tip? Layered or regular?
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I've used Moori mediums for many years. All tips get harder as they get compressed from play which is why I prefer the medium. As soon as it's installed, I have the cue tech CAREFULLY shave off 10-15% of the tip because I don't like that much leather haning out there.
Then I whack the tip with a cue ball about 200 times. Some pound them on a hard floor.
When tips harden with use, they also get somewhat too smooth (in my experience) and do require a little more scuffing that when they are newer but that takes just a few seconds and doens't bother me a bit.
I LOVE the hit with the Moori medium.
Regards,
Jim
Then I whack the tip with a cue ball about 200 times. Some pound them on a hard floor.
When tips harden with use, they also get somewhat too smooth (in my experience) and do require a little more scuffing that when they are newer but that takes just a few seconds and doens't bother me a bit.
I LOVE the hit with the Moori medium.
Regards,
Jim
Layered tiger Hard is my #1 Choice.
elk & s.moori
I have come to the conclusion after 21 years of replacing, shaping and cutting hundreds of thousands of tips that the Elk Master tip allows contact on the furthest edge of the cue ball, even mis cues produce some grab that completes the shot. Efren and most of the players in the Philippines, Earl, Corey and a lot of the very best players in the world use this amazing tip. Most everybody has used one on house cues. My second choice of consistent (same feel when replaced), grabbing, looks and lasting would be the Soft Moori. I use this tip and percentage wise it is one of the best tips available today. I find a bad one occasionally, but maybe one out of 20 or 30. I love the response this tip gives me, I feel the contact with the cue ball. I do not have as powerful a stroke like the "Greats" but I can do what I want with this tip. The draw back is they mushroom out several times but when they are right they will deliver the wins.
I have come to the conclusion after 21 years of replacing, shaping and cutting hundreds of thousands of tips that the Elk Master tip allows contact on the furthest edge of the cue ball, even mis cues produce some grab that completes the shot. Efren and most of the players in the Philippines, Earl, Corey and a lot of the very best players in the world use this amazing tip. Most everybody has used one on house cues. My second choice of consistent (same feel when replaced), grabbing, looks and lasting would be the Soft Moori. I use this tip and percentage wise it is one of the best tips available today. I find a bad one occasionally, but maybe one out of 20 or 30. I love the response this tip gives me, I feel the contact with the cue ball. I do not have as powerful a stroke like the "Greats" but I can do what I want with this tip. The draw back is they mushroom out several times but when they are right they will deliver the wins.
radge69 said:
I agree with this assessment. I am playing with my first Kamui and have used it for about 3-4 months now. After searching high and low for some old Moori's, I decided to try a Kamui soft. Best tip I have had on a cue in a long, long time. My next choice iwould be the Moori Slow, but I will be sticking with the Kamui's for now.
I noticed
an immediate improvement in consistency after going to a layered tip. It wasn't quite as responsive, but overall the cueing was more consistent on all types of shots.
Much less maintenance needed for a layered tip. Lasts much longer. Although I am due for another tip real soon, I have had this medium hard layered Hercules tip on my cue for 3 1/2 years.
an immediate improvement in consistency after going to a layered tip. It wasn't quite as responsive, but overall the cueing was more consistent on all types of shots.
Much less maintenance needed for a layered tip. Lasts much longer. Although I am due for another tip real soon, I have had this medium hard layered Hercules tip on my cue for 3 1/2 years.
back to a standard tip for me
I have tried a few of the layered tips, mostly Moori's and have a tin full of them in my workbench. I'm going back to triangles and milk duds on my cues. The reason is simple. On the layered tips with fairly thick layers you find yourself playing with a tip that responds differently as you work your way through the layers of plain leather and glue impregnated leather as it gets lower. For me a moori medium with leather edges and a little glue impregnated leather in the middle plays great. However just after that I get to where the center is softer and the edges are glue impregnated and the edges glaze easily and just are too hard to play to suit me.
For me, the non-layered tips are more consistent at the heights I like a tip to be. I have had my fling with layered tips and I'm sure I'll have to try one or two more down the road but consistency means more than anything to me and a good single layer tip delivers that.
Hu
I have tried a few of the layered tips, mostly Moori's and have a tin full of them in my workbench. I'm going back to triangles and milk duds on my cues. The reason is simple. On the layered tips with fairly thick layers you find yourself playing with a tip that responds differently as you work your way through the layers of plain leather and glue impregnated leather as it gets lower. For me a moori medium with leather edges and a little glue impregnated leather in the middle plays great. However just after that I get to where the center is softer and the edges are glue impregnated and the edges glaze easily and just are too hard to play to suit me.
For me, the non-layered tips are more consistent at the heights I like a tip to be. I have had my fling with layered tips and I'm sure I'll have to try one or two more down the road but consistency means more than anything to me and a good single layer tip delivers that.
Hu
bigskyjake said:
When did that happen? From what I read, they had problems, but the current ones don't seem to have this problem. However, with their past problems they obviously have burned a lot of bridges...
Regards,
Detlev