Which would be fine if he sent $400. But he didn't. He sent $412. 2.9% of $412 is $11.95. Plus the $.30 and you have total fees of 12.25. $412 - $12.25 = $399.75.
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Which would be fine if he sent $400. But he didn't. He sent $412. 2.9% of $412 is $11.95. Plus the $.30 and you have total fees of 12.25. $412 - $12.25 = $399.75.
Rackattach
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Paypal charges a fee based on what you send.
You sent $412.
Fee was $12.25. (2.9% of $412 + $.30)
If you had only sent $400, then the fee would have been $11.90 and the seller would have received $388.10.
I read it as the texts saying. He wanted to clear 400. On his end. And rack said he didn't want to go that high. And op said something about his other phone etc. and then op text and said rack had to corner ship. Which means shipping. So op still thought rack was supposed to pay for shipping. The whole time. That's my take on his texts.
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I'm under the IMPRESSION that you were responsible for shipping cost when you finalized the deal, am I right or wrong?
(it's great we're on the same page w/regards to PP fees being based on sale price + fees and NOT sale price only....THANK YOU "SIXPACK")
As you indicated Rack came up $.25 short on his pmt because the formula he used to cypher PP cost wasn't quite plumb.
Could you clear up who was responsible for the cost of shipping when your deal was finalized?
THANKS
Everybody on the planet is on the same page except for two people. One is this thread's creator, the other is a thread destroyer.
Ironic, since they each use both sides of paypal on regular basis.
justinb386
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Gosh, I feel like an idiot now. You are right, lol.
https://www.google.com/search?sourc...k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1j33i21k1.330.wHQDVM-AADo
Should have sent $12.25 to cover the fee. This paypal fee thing is just way too confusing for me.
Okay, so it turns out that the seller was okay with the $399.75 that he received after the fee, and may have planned on shipping it, the next day but got stuck at work.
I still think that he should have taken it off of the market, if he was okay with the deal, and planned on shipping the cue out, and there really was no need for him to be so nasty and rude after the OP requested the refund.
I feel like an idiot now. In the future, I have to remember that I deduct the paypal fee from the total amount, lol.
I think that the seller should have made these calculations himself though, and either sent an invoice, or told the OP the exact amount of money to send.
Also, $400 is a lot of money (to some people), so a seller should ship when he says that he is going to ship.
justinb386
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I always knew that paypal charges around 3%, but I never knew that there were people out there that were so cheap that they would be worried about being shorted something as little at 25 cents. Pretty shocking.
I see that the buyer requested a refund, after he thought that the OP was still trying to sell the cue to others online, because he did not remove his For Sale ads after the deal was made.
He should have took the cue off of the market after the deal was made, right?
He did seem to be okay with the $399.75, and did say that he printed out the shipping label for the OP.
By the way, if he had printed the shipping label out through paypal, then the OP would have been notified (through paypal) of the tracking number.
You are the biggest troll on the face of the earth. You spent half this thread being a PayPal expert and now it’s too confusing for you. Basic life is too confusing for you. It’s clear to everyone but you.
He's a nut!
we should petition MIKE to give him his own forum, then, instead of banning those that step on their pee-pee from the site they can be sentenced there as an option
It wont matter...They're like a bad penny...No matter how ugly they get they always seem to stay in circulation..
This thread is laborious and terrible. Yet, here I am having read the whole stupid thing. :sorry:
The only thing I will add is that to those who think this thread should have nothing to do with the OPs past. Screw that. If you call out someone's reputation publicly, possibly ruining future transactions for them, your credibility is DEFINITELY on the table for discussion.
The only thing I will add is that to those who think this thread should have nothing to do with the OPs past. Screw that. If you call out someone's reputation publicly, possibly ruining future transactions for them, your credibility is DEFINITELY on the table for discussion.
justinb386
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Not meaning to be a troll (I honestly do not even understand what the term means).
Okay, so yeah, I am an idiot for not knowing that that 2.9% (plus $0.30) needed to be deducted from the full amount (not the amount before adding the money that needed to be added for the paypal fee). I think that in these cases, the seller should do the math, and let the buyer know the exact amount that needs to be sent, before giving their paypal email. Either that, or request the paypal email from the buyer, and send an invoice (like most businesses would normally do).
Also, if the amount of the shipping costs was part of the deal, then the seller would have let the buyer know the amount (of money) that needed to be added to the $400, for the shipping costs.
Well, it turns out that the seller did not even have an issue with being shorted 25 cents, and may have shipped the cue if the OP had not requested a refund, due to thinking that the seller had no intention of shipping the cue out (due to the seller not taking the cue off of the Far Sale thread, or threads). If the OP had filled in the entire story up front, then I would not have been here for 20 pages of repeating myself over and over again.
The OP never stated originally that he requested (or actually demanded) a refund after the cue had not shipped out on the 2nd day (may have been the 1st day) that the seller said that it would ship.
So, it turns out that this entire thread was very pointless.
The OP demanded a refund 2 days after he paid for the item, and the seller sent the refund seemingly very soon after the refund was requested.
So, no deal was broken (the buyer broke off the deal by demanding a refund).
I think that the only thing that the seller did wrong (in this case) was not taking the cue off of the market, after the deal was made and paid for (not to mention how rude and nasty he was about the refund, through text message).
The OP probably would have never requested (or demanded) a refund if the seller had taken the cue off of the market (like he should have after the deal was made and paid for).
I do not think he would have demanded a refund if he thought that the cue would ship out the next day (or eventually).
I mean, the seller stated that he printed out a shipping label, but did not give him the tracking number. Just seems fishy to me.
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justinb386
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It is entertainment for them to attack people like me. What would they do for fun if they did not have anyone to make fun of and attack (on the forums)?
justinb386
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The same could be said about all of the rude and nasty douchebags in the world.
justinb386
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One thing that everyone has ignored (and I think that I am the only person that commented about the rude and nasty way that the seller texted the buyer, about giving the refund already) is the screenshot of the text messages that were sent (by the seller) about the refund.
What type of person responds in that type of way after giving a refund?
I would never speak to (or text) a person in that type of way.
People like that is one of the reasons why this world is as bad as it is.
If people would just learn to treat everyone in the same manor that they like to be treated (which is hopefully a manor without nasty and rude attitudes), then I think this world would be a much better place.
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