"Big" Cue Collectors

Biloxi Boy

Man With A Golden Arm
Just curious, again. How many cue collectors/investors out there are holding a group cues that are worth at least 50K? Are there any groups or organizations for such folks? Are there high end pool halls in which the players are all playing with high end cues?
 
Just curious, again. How many cue collectors/investors out there are holding a group cues that are worth at least 50K? Are there any groups or organizations for such folks? Are there high end pool halls in which the players are all playing with high end cues?
There was a private room in Charlotte back in the 90's(could still be there) that almost every player had at least 1 Richard black and most of them were kept in lockers at the room.

I have over 50k in cues at Searing shop alone 🤣 i think we're making progress on that.

There's a few people on AZ that are closer to or over a million.
 
yikes 50 k, there are lots of people with collections worth much more than that, even with a single cue worth more than that.

and a bunch of foreign country collectors with big collections.

and of course quite a few cue makers holding to refinish never, or unfinished cues worth un told amounts the owners will never see. ha ha.
 
The existence of "millionaires" is of no surprise. Likewise, I expect many "players" may own one or two expensive cues. I am wondering how many folks have so much in cues that they would be considered to be investing and, yes, I realize that this is subjective and what is a lot of money to one is nothing to others. I also wonder what eventually happens to the players' closet queens.

Finally, I have always taken it as a given that an appreciation of fine cues, and the willingness to spend big money buying one or a thousand, has to begin with a love and knowledge of our game. Has anyone ever run into anyone not fitting my assumption?

When I was young, I just wanted a pool stick. As I grew older, I just wanted a better one. I have never bought a cue wondering if it would retain its value or if I would eventually make or lose money on it.
 
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yikes 50 k, there are lots of people with collections worth much more than that, even with a single cue worth more than that.

and a bunch of foreign country collectors with big collections.

and of course quite a few cue makers holding to refinish never, or unfinished cues worth un told amounts the owners will never see. ha ha.
1 of my Searing with szamboti blank will probably hit the 50k alone. Lol
 
Just curious, again. How many cue collectors/investors out there are holding a group cues that are worth at least 50K? Are there any groups or organizations for such folks? Are there high end pool halls in which the players are all playing with high end cues?
Why
 
Good to find someone with knowledge. How about 50K to 100K? 100K to 250K? 500K up?

I knew I was in high cotton around here, just did not realize how high.
 
Big collections are probably what, 75-100 cues or far more? Do the math…
 
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Virtually all cue collector members of the International Cue Collector Show (ICCS) have cue collections worth far in excess of your baseline. Some magnificent new ones, some amazing historical ones, some exceedingly rare ones.

The show is the Grandaddy of Cue Shows, with exhibitors by invitation only, with attendees from around the world.
Every Show year the event is moved around the country, and is available to the public to attend. The Show is moved around the country so that a wider opportunity is available for the interested public.

I have been closely involved since its first show in 2002 and have been President since 2009.

Many of the best cuemakers in the world attend each show, including some regular participants on AZB like Paul Drexler.

Will Prout
 
Just curious, again. How many cue collectors/investors out there are holding a group cues that are worth at least 50K? Are there any groups or organizations for such folks? Are there high end pool halls in which the players are all playing with high end cues?
Many years ago,
John Wright from Chicago-
told me
1 collector had 55 Gus Szamboti cues,
was offered 5 mil....
turned down the offer too-
I think Japan collector-
Lucky had some of the very best, fancy Gus cues ever built
 
Virtually all cue collector members of the International Cue Collector Show (ICCS) have cue collections worth far in excess of your baseline. Some magnificent new ones, some amazing historical ones, some exceedingly rare ones.

The show is the Grandaddy of Cue Shows, with exhibitors by invitation only, with attendees from around the world.
Every Show year the event is moved around the country, and is available to the public to attend. The Show is moved around the country so that a wider opportunity is available for the interested public.

I have been closely involved since its first show in 2002 and have been President since 2009.

Many of the best cuemakers in the world attend each show, including some regular participants on AZB like Paul Drexler.

Will Prout
I made the ICCS show one time in St Louis and one time in Atlanta and I must say the collections some guys were showing were amazing. The newly built cues put up to be voted on for best of show were really great also. I like the older cues and you and some others had some really rare cues. I have been selling off my collection a little here and there lately. I did not want to be turning over in my grave one day watching my grand kids selling them for pennies on the dollar. You have done a great job with the ICCS.
 
I made the ICCS show one time in St Louis and one time in Atlanta and I must say the collections some guys were showing were amazing. The newly built cues put up to be voted on for best of show were really great also. I like the older cues and you and some others had some really rare cues. I have been selling off my collection a little here and there lately. I did not want to be turning over in my grave one day watching my grand kids selling them for pennies on the dollar. You have done a great job with the ICCS.
Agree 1000%.
Location of 2025?!
 
many decades ago japan was buying the most ornate cues as fast as they could be made.

slowed down after they found out many were fakes being sold.
 
There is no such place as a pool room where the main ingredient is people who go there to play bc they own high end cues. Secondly, investing and collecting are two different categories- you collect out of passion, you invest bc you want to make money- those are two completely separate and in most cases opposing motivations in the long run.
The reality is that the vast majority of collections in anything fail to actually return profits beyond normal inflation, the highest end of any collectable category has the best potential to turn the highest profit- but only in times when there are willing and able buyers - just like the stock market - you can't time it very often at all.
many decades ago japan was buying the most ornate cues as fast as they could be made.

slowed down after they found out many were fakes being sold.
Slowed down bc the Japan economy fell apart completely- collecting is not investing, trying to time any market is always a risky proposition. Who owns all the "fakes" now? Every high end collectable has been faked- paintings, wines, watches, antiquities, etc. etc.
 
Fellow selling about 130 cues near Tulsa via craigslist (??) No description except photos.

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