Big leaf and red maple

Mr Hoppe

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I see a lot of curly "big leaf" maple (acer macrophylum) out there, and I was wondering what people's experiences have been using it for forearm stock. I know it's lighter, and was thinking about coring it with denser material. Has anyone used it uncored? I picked up a piece to try and I also notice that, although it's all sap wood, it has a slightly grayish tone to it (at least this piece does.) Will that be noticable after a finish is applied? I've also heard that red maple (don't know species) also makes a good substitute for hard curly maple (acer saccharum.) Would like to get some opinions on both curly big leaf and curly red maple.
Thanks.
Mr H
 
all the big leaf i have is very white.i have a bunch of Quilted and some 5A curly and all of it is whiter than the hard Maple i have.i have seen some gey and tan and pinkinsh and etc,but i alwasy just buy the white.

the Red Maple is harder than the big leaf but still not as hard as Sugar or Black maple.i think they use it in some bats and furniture and i would think it is strong enough for an uncroed forearm,but i don't want to be the guy that finds out the hard way that it isn't strong enough.i think the big leaf would probably work too.they are both hardwoods.i do know a few guys that use the big leaf in forearms without coring it,but i don't.i only use it in handles and i always core it.
 
You are absolutely correct about the hardness Mason - good points. Western (big leaf) maple is softer than Red leaf maple (Acer rubrum,) which is softer than Hard maple. Red maple has about the same density as Black Cherry. Red maple (we call it soft maple to differentiate from hard) is used for a multitude of things, from furniture to kitchen cabinets to hardwood flooring and molding. I have seen a lot of it in cues, but I wouldn't know if it was cored or not. If I had to make a recommendation, I would say to be safe and always core it. It is probably stable enough for a forearm, but it is not as dense and wouldn't give you the same hit as hard maple.

To answer your question about the grayish color, it is probably blue stain (sap stain). Light colored wood is especially susceptible to this phenomenon, which is caused by a fungus when the wood is dried too slowly. In summer-cut soft maple, blue stain can begin to occur in a matter of days if the lumber isn't properly taken care of. The fungus usually begins on the outside of a log or a board, so you may see it more on the end of a blank or even just on the surface. Once the wood is dry, the fungus is killed and the wood will not stain any further. Try turning the blank. It may turn right out. If it doesn't turn out, this color will definitely show up in a finished cue. Wipe some water or mineral spirits on the piece and that will give you an idea of what it will look like when finished. In my experience, most end-users don't mind some blue stain. It is a natural product and it happens. If you don't like the look, try staining the cue to hide it or dye it.

I hope this helps.

Eric
 
Great info!!

bellforest said:
You are absolutely correct about the hardness Mason - good points. Western (big leaf) maple is softer than Red leaf maple (Acer rubrum,) which is softer than Hard maple. Red maple has about the same density as Black Cherry. Red maple (we call it soft maple to differentiate from hard) is used for a multitude of things, from furniture to kitchen cabinets to hardwood flooring and molding. I have seen a lot of it in cues, but I wouldn't know if it was cored or not. If I had to make a recommendation, I would say to be safe and always core it. It is probably stable enough for a forearm, but it is not as dense and wouldn't give you the same hit as hard maple.

To answer your question about the grayish color, it is probably blue stain (sap stain). Light colored wood is especially susceptible to this phenomenon, which is caused by a fungus when the wood is dried too slowly. In summer-cut soft maple, blue stain can begin to occur in a matter of days if the lumber isn't properly taken care of. The fungus usually begins on the outside of a log or a board, so you may see it more on the end of a blank or even just on the surface. Once the wood is dry, the fungus is killed and the wood will not stain any further. Try turning the blank. It may turn right out. If it doesn't turn out, this color will definitely show up in a finished cue. Wipe some water or mineral spirits on the piece and that will give you an idea of what it will look like when finished. In my experience, most end-users don't mind some blue stain. It is a natural product and it happens. If you don't like the look, try staining the cue to hide it or dye it.

I hope this helps.

Eric

Eric & Mason, Excelent posts. Good question from Mr Hoppe and great information from Mason and Eric!:smile:
 
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