Bigger Diameter Handle

Jeff

Jeff

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Is there a standard size that most cue makers use when making the grip section of their cues?

I have been using my old Palmer for a while now and the other night I went out not expecting to play pool, but did. I used a friends Joss and the thing felt so small in my hand.

I measured my Palmer and a Joss I have and there is a difference, but the difference is not really that much which surprised me even more as the difference in feel led to me believe there would be more.

I guess even a little can have a big difference in how the cue feels in your hand.

Which got me wondering how others felt about the grip size on their cues.

Does the grip size make a difference to you?

What size is the grip of the cue you use?
 
The older Schon that I traded to Erik Lee felt like it had a large butt. I never measured it, but it was definitely bigger than anything I'd felt before. My current cues all measure about 1.25
 
I have 2 cues by the same maker that have identical dimensions in the grip area and if I remember correctly it is about 1.18 diameter (I will verify this evening) Strange thing is one has a linen wrap the other a leather and although they both mic out to the same size the leather grip feels a little larger in my hand. Not sure why this is but that's how it feels to me. Anyone else encounter anything similar to this?
 
Kevin Lindstrom said:
I have 2 cues by the same maker that have identical dimensions in the grip area and if I remember correctly it is about 1.18 diameter (I will verify this evening) Strange thing is one has a linen wrap the other a leather and although they both mic out to the same size the leather grip feels a little larger in my hand. Not sure why this is but that's how it feels to me. Anyone else encounter anything similar to this?
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The cue I was talking about had a leather wrap also. It was my fist encounter with leather and I didn't like it too much. It was just me though. I'm used to linen wraps.
 
All I have is a 1 inch mic so I'm using a cloth tape and then doing the math, but the Palmer figures out close to 1.25
 
Just to help clarify.
How many of you are measuring at the end of the butt-cap, and how many are measuring where you actually grip the cue?
There should be a big difference :D

Jon
 
Jon said:
Just to help clarify.
How many of you are measuring at the end of the butt-cap, and how many are measuring where you actually grip the cue?
There should be a big difference :D

Jon
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No kidding. :D
The taper of the handle has a lot to do with it too.
A buttcap at 1.250" wouldn't feel too fat or too skinny for a medium-sized hand shooter if the taper isn't too steep.
On single taper cues, the taper of the handle could be around .015" per inch.
On dual taper cues, it could be as comfy as .011" per inch.
 
I'm measuring about 2 inches from the bottom of the wrap where I grip it.
 
My old 80s Joss measures at 1.295" at the buttcap with my digital calipers. That's thick by today's standards. When I first grabbed a "newer" cue with a 1.24" buttcap measurement, it felt like a toothpick.

Basically, today's cuemakers seem to produce cues with buttcap widths of 1.25 - 1.26". By using heavier or lighter handles, the weight and balance can be manipulated to to compensate for thicker and thinner handles.

A good friend of mine prefers his sticks to measure out at 1.23" at the buttcap which feels just a tad thin to me. I like 1.245 :p

To add to the equation, some cuemakers will double taper from the buttcap to the joint so that the handle area is more consistent in size. Kinda neat!!

sherwin
 
I was told that the game changed over the yrs. where the grip got much looser and the felt much faster. This and the newer materials and technology all lead towards a thinner handle. Your Palmer is typical for a cue from that era. For what it's worth, Bushkas, and older cues like Paradise etc. all feel just like that.

The joint is another huge difference in newer cues. Hit a Southwest. It will feel so different than your metal jointed Palmer. I was told by Roy Malott over at IndyQ about a year ago that no one wants a steel jointed cue anymore. Flat faced, large pins and compression fit are all the rage. I dunno.....lately I see more and more steel joints again :D

sherwin

ps: from what I've seen, the older cues had a single taper from butt cap to joint. Just like your Palmer.
 
Not a bat.

JoeyInCali said:
Are you sure that's cue not a baseball bat?:eek:
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I think he meant 2 inches up from the bottom of the wrap is were he measured the diameter!:confused:
 
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