Billiard Industry needs

Cardguys3

Cardguys3

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I have a lot of programming/electrical engineering/technical and pool experience and want to give back to the community. If time or money were no option, but human resources were restricted to just one human, what could be crafted to improve the billiard community. Ideas I have heard so far, and in no particular order:

1) A wearable (clip on) timer that conveys time violations. - Accelerometer/BLE/microphone.
2) A free/freemium unified platform (website/app) for tournament management. -Self mobile check-in & reporting; state of the art.
3) A device to determine who wins the lag. -laser proximity non-doppler.
4) Facial recognition & game recognition for automated player scoring - Compareface et. al.
5) Improved Ranking & Handicapping system - Avoid known micro cavitation & include transparent metrics.
6) Augmented reality aiming glasses. -- Might be a bit too complicated for 1 man.
7) Balls with sensors (training) devices. -3 axis Accelerometer/BLE/Resin

What else? I'll pick my favorite one, make it and report back. I like 1 and 2 a lot. 3 is too easy.

Would any of these not succeed, if not why - adoption, pragmaticism, implementation, something else? Nothing is too complicated.
 
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none of this is needed in any way. please. there's areas in which the game can improve but this techno-geek stuff is not one of them. don't hold your breath on this stuff ever happening. i really hope your being facetious on this shit.
 
Watching for a double hit would be great.

I can see that as very beneficial.

Now all of this can and cannot be done on the local level.

For example, our gambling games consist of someone taking a video of the hit and going back and replaying it if there is any question. Very useful.
 
absafknlutely not
we need to do the exact opposite
dirty up the tables, losen the pockets
bring back smoking

do something useful with all your technical skills like help man kind in the medical field
or build rockets

stop turning pool into a video game
 
Cardguys3 said:
7) Balls with sensors (training) devices. -3 axis Accelerometer/BLE/Resin
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See www.digicue.net.

Nevermind the knuckle draggers above... The first ones to rebuke ambition are those who haven't accomplished anything and are too uneducated to do so. Garczar, TCC et al. are well known trolls and miserable online presences. Put them on your ignore list.

I love the enthusiasm! However you may not realize how much work it takes to bring any type of tangible product to market. It is so much work no matter what the idea is. Software is a different animal since it doesn't require the long lead times and resources hardware does.
 
There is already a usable general scoring site -- Digitalpool.com There are many things they need to improve, but the framework is there.
 
For the time clock, there are already several good solutions including the way Accu-Stats does it.
 
garczar said:
Hey, i finally thought of one thing pool DIRELY needs: NO fkng phones near a pool table. If you can't turn off the damn for a couple hrs you need to find a new game or more likely a life.
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I've longed for a cellphone jammer and not just for pool rooms.
 
For player rating, I think Fargorate is close to the best that can be done. It would be great if all pool organizations used it officially.
 
As for the aiming assistant, there is already a projection system with camera that can draw shot lines and display cut angles.
 
Bob Jewett said:
As for lag determination, the rules of carom billiards explicitly forbid the use of any device to determine nearest ball. If the lag is that close, the players lag again. I think that's a good rule.
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I bet that is a vestigial/antiquatable rule base on a lack of technology at the time. But perhaps not.
 
nataddrho said:
See www.digicue.net.

Nevermind the knuckle draggers above... The first ones to rebuke ambition are those who haven't accomplished anything and are too uneducated to do so. Garczar, TCC et al. are well known trolls and miserable online presences. Put them on your ignore list.

I love the enthusiasm! However you may not realize how much work it takes to bring any type of tangible product to market. It is so much work no matter what the idea is. Software is a different animal since it doesn't require the long lead times and resources hardware does.
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Thanks for the positivity. :) I agree with your statement. That is why I was leaning toward a tournament management site that captures ridiculous statistics and uses those to develop a far more robust weighting system. Did one lose because one miscued, or did one lose because one had a wall 2 feet behind away and couldn't stroke the cue ball which caused a miscue. <--trite example but an example of sorts worth considering perhaps. I have the time, money, & energy to bring most of these to market.
 
Bob Jewett said:
For player rating, I think Fargorate is close to the best that can be done. It would be great if all pool organizations used it officially.
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Thanks for so many replies. You rock. I may get hate mail for this, but I can't see Fargo as being the best. From my actuarial pragmatic experiences, I see flaws that can be corrected or improved upon hence that micro cavitation issue I alluded to. Having a system that is probably AI driven or something that dynamically weights impeding factors empirically is going to be lightyears ahead of Fargo basic win/loss driven statistics. Please do not take offense. I don't mean to take a stab at Fargo or you. I've just experienced otherwise with fargo is all I am saying. Mea culpa.
 
LEADERS. TABLE MANUFACTURERS like Brunswick in the '60s to support/fund expansion, especially into the schools. Kid's heads must be taken from dead phones and introduced into real like analytical endeavors. Save the kids, save the country . . . Seriously.

The kids need to solve for themselves, not be handed something to solve it for them, We all got here without such BS. What the kids need are the BASICS: tables, balls, and cues. And chalk, too, once they learn to say "please".
But, without the tables, no one is going anywhere.
 
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Cardguys3 said:
I may get hate mail for this, but I can't see Fargo as being the best. From my actuarial pragmatic experiences, I see flaws that can be corrected or improved upon hence that micro cavitation issue I alluded to. Having a system that is probably AI driven or something that dynamically weights impeding factors empirically is going to be lightyears ahead of Fargo basic win/loss driven statistics. Please do not take offense. I don't mean to take a stab at Fargo or you. I've just experienced otherwise with fargo is all I am saying. Mea culpa.
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What problems and fixes do you have in mind. How much rating error do the problems cause? Please be clear and specific in your criticism.
 
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