Billiard Room Owners Association

Still confused

So I have read all the posts, and have been a member of the BCA for years, and I am confused to why so many people have an inane distrust of the BCA - can someone please explain?

From all my years of experience with the BCA they have given me BCA merchandise (to resell), free tickets to the BCAExpo, and discounts on a variety of services. I do think they can do more for Room Owners - however, we are all in the billiard industry together- wouldn't it serve us better if we already use the association at hand, instead of creating a new one from scratch?
 
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CallShotCowboy said:
So I have read all the posts, and have been a member of the BCA for years, and I am confused to why so many people have an inane distrust of the BCA - can someone please explain?

From all my years of experience with the BCA they have given me BCA merchandise (to resell), free tickets to the BCAExpo, and discounts on a variety of services. I do think they can do more for Room Owners - however, we are all in the billiard industry together- wouldn't it serve us better if we already use the association at hand, instead of creating a new one from scratch?
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The P.R.O.S (as someone labeled it nicely) is for Pool Rooms ONLY, not anyone in the billiard industry; which is what the BCA caters to!

Zim
 
While I think that trade org's are a good thing for some trades. I dont think that pool rooms would benefit enough from a org, to justify the time, costs and effort organizing would cost.

I have been a business man my whole life, my partent were so I grew up only knowing and seeing my partent struggle with a 1200sqft feed store.


I think what would benefit pool room owners is a website on the how to's. A private forum where room owners could talk openly about theit balance sheets, P&L's what promotions worked and what isnt working. Who they are buying their insurance from and what their costs are. Sharing knowlege everyone would benefit from that. What deals the vendors are offering, how your purchasing your alchol, costs everything. A network of people in the know educating each other. This is a much simpler solution than a trade org with a board of directors.

There isnt enough $$$ in pool to pay lobiests to repeal the smoking bans that have closed so many pool rooms. At this point the horse is out and the barn door is closed on that topic.

I feel a orgazation of willing particapants who are in the industry serving each other is the solution.

For example Diamond isnt going to start discounting their smart tables because there is a trade org, neither will other furnature wholesalers, I sell million's a year in furnature and the price breaks come when you start buying containers on ONE type of table-the whole container being just one specific table 42" tall 24" round balck bar table, there is a zillion of them in a container, too many for 30 poolrooms. Whats the solution then, sharing info on who's the best place to buy them from, not trying a power play with a trade org,


I'm knot knocking the idea, I believe in pool and want to see everyone succeed, and I believe information, education, and the exchange of ideas online is the best solution right now.

respectfully,

eric
 
This is a example of what I'm talking about right here on AZ:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=178244


Its a good idea for some rooms and wouldnt work in other rooms. But my point is its a idea(that I never thought of in 25 years). We all can learn from each other and if there could be a way to get to people who are opening rooms that dont have the experience some of us have they would benefit the most.

A private forum charging $10/mo or $100 annually would work, and it would require a current active biz licence bearing the name of the pool room. The site would make a little $$$, only room owners talking biz-serious stuff only. No risk of prying eyes seeing private information.

I would give every pool room a 30 or 60 free trial period, to get it up and rolling with content to make it worth the subscription fee. It would have to get traction in the first 6 months to work. I bet it would. I dont have the time to launch this idea but I believe its solid. Just email every pool room possible and advertize the free trial. Perhaps the first 90 days free to get smoe traction. It wouldnt have to be limited to pool room owners, other industry vendors as well, still requiring the biz licence to screen out non-biz folks. Or keep the room owners seperate-there are lots of possibilities here.

My point is it would be the fastest way to educate each other, because at the end of the day how good you do depends on what you know and how you apply it to your room. You cant do what you dont know, if you know what to do and dont do it-then you can only blame yourself. I was just in a pool room recently the balls were so dirty I was scraping off a crust and it was caught up under my finge nail with a scratch in the ball where I flaked off the dirt. Now this room owner is just lazy and has lazy employees. Nothing is going to fix that situation. But there are many ways to clean balls-most pool rooms I have been in (over 150) dont have it figured out, and thats something pretty simple. you WILL get more biz with shiny balls, those little details seperate the winners from the strugglers. Its all about getting customers in the door, right??? here is one more right here on AZB: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=175595



best of luck to everyone,

Eric :smile:
 
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BCA - group purchasing plan

Just made it back from the BCA expo, where they announced the formation of a group purchasing plan for Pool Room Owners with some major fortune 500 companies.

And I wanted to see if any other room owners have heard about the program, what you thought, and if you think this new BCA initiative can actually save you money?
 

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