BJJ (Brazilian Jiu Jitsu)and Pool

Mikjary said:
Pete,

With many years of martial arts experience, you should be able to answer your own question. There're many different levels in working out and each person should be aware of their limitations and have reasonable expectations.

You said you worked out in a Korean style. I have worked out and instructed in a few different Korean styles, too. Depending on the style and the instructor, you should be familiar enough with martial arts to do whatever it is you want to accomplish.

I also trained in BJJ. The workouts are completely different than Korean martial arts. Your whole body will hurt for the first few weeks until you get used to it. Common sense in understanding your physical abilities will go a long way in preventing injuries. Your pool stroke will take a beating, but it gets better as you get familiar with your training.

If you move into mixed martial arts training, I would say your pool game will suffer. BJJ alone is just a good workout. This will help you mentally and physically for those long sessions. Martial arts, like pool can be done into old age. You just have to choose at what level.

Best,
Mike
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Thank you Mike,

Since BJJ is so different in the training, I thought some feedback from others would be nice. But I know what you are saying and agree 100%. I just look at the training and feel that I will be a fish out of water.

When I originally posted this, it was for responses such as yours so thank you.

As for all the bash and slam back and forth, I have always enjoyed lively debates on Martial Arts. But still hope to get the feedback I was asking for.

One of my earliest instructors taught me, and I still teach it to this day (Pre me doing BJJ of course). If all things are equal Which ever fighter does what they do the best at the time of the fight (fighting the way they fight best, making the opponent fight their fighting style if you will), will most likely win/survive. There are always exceptions but generally I feel it's true. For example, Tae Kwon Do fighter vs a wrestler, if the TKD fighter not only forces the wrestler to fight standing up, and keeps him/her at the their kicking distance, they should be able to pummel the wrestler to death or submission. Same fight, if the wrestler forces the TKD fighter to fight her/him on the ground, the TKD fighter will be forced submit. It's who ever controls the fight, who ever is better at that control. Some style are easier to use against other styles. Bill Superfoot Wallace's fighting style is not as effective against mutable opponents. Because he is used to fighting in the ring, kicking guys in the head. Wally Jay's style is better against someone trying to grab him.

Anyways I am just rambling on here...

Pete
 
Pete said:
One of my earliest instructors taught me, and I still teach it to this day (Pre me doing BJJ of course). If all things are equal Which ever fighter does what they do the best at the time of the fight (fighting the way they fight best, making the opponent fight their fighting style if you will), will most likely win/survive. There are always exceptions but generally I feel it's true.
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IMO you are giving your students very realistic advise by passing this along to them.
 
I found that rolling lots of BJJ helped in one aspect. If you roll a lot your core will be stronger and have more stamina. So you can get down on shots and be able to hold there and be more stable for longer periods of time. You'll have slightly more balance. This doesn't necessarily translate into playing better pool, you still have to know how to aim and think through a rack.

As far as BJJ vs. Boxing.... It's been said that in BJJ you will need to be able to at least take one punch. One punch on your way in to grab hold and control someone. If a BJJ guy is unable to take a boxer down or control them, it will be a rough day. The odds of any fight going to the ground though are pretty high. There's too much of a chance of a clinch happening in any fight to bet against the BJJ guy in a BJJ vs. boxer matchup.
 
Unless I wimp out, tonight will be my intro class. Nervess and excited at the same time...

Pete
 
(((Satori))) said:
Who wins this extreme hypothetical mma fight.

Floyd Maywether vs either Nicolini or Dern?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=majQRqFYifw
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It's a tough one. Floyd will be much more athletic and will be able to punch really hard. With that said, if either girl can get it to the ground (mayweather has zero takedown defense) they'd be able to choke him out pretty quickly.

Mayweather is about 150lbs, and has boxed his entire life. Take a 150lb BJJ practitioner that's been training for 2 yrs and put him up against Floyd, it would be a disaster. FM wouldnt last 5 minutes.
 
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