Black Ball ?

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Dan_B

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...a rouge version,

Rouge County Black Ball

Winner of the lag gets choice of rack and location. In a best of or a race loser gets choice of rack and location.

Opening break must hit the black ball first from the “D”. Black spots if it pots on the break -1.

No call, like 9 ball. All balls count for both sides with a good hit on your side - red or yellow. Example: If you’re red, you can pot yellow with a good hit on your red first, combo a pot, you’re still shooting. Call the black for the win

All fouls are -1 ball like 1P. spot on the center line, side to side with BIH in the “D”.



Me thinking that if a player go’s negative, in the hole and yet comes back for a win and has a 5 and the loosing opponent has 7, made all of his or her balls with no fouls, the winner should only get a half of win/skin.

What do you think, too much?



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Dan_B said:
...a rouge version,

Rouge County Black Ball

Winner of the lag gets choice of rack and location. In a best of or a race loser gets choice of rack and location.

Opening break must hit the black ball first from the “D”. Black spots if it pots on the break -1.

No call, like 9 ball. All balls count for both sides with a good hit on your side - red or yellow. Example: If you’re red, you can pot yellow with a good hit on your red first, combo a pot, you’re still shooting. Call the black for the win

All fouls are -1 ball like 1P. spot on the center line, side to side with BIH in the “D”.



Me thinking that if a player go’s negative, in the hole and yet comes back for a win and has a 5 and the loosing opponent has 7, made all of his or her balls with no fouls, the winner should only get a half of win/skin.

What do you think, too much?



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So English pool is interesting, but you lost me with the obstacles. Yes, to much.
 
If fouls lose a ball, does the incoming player also have two visits like in regular blackball, or is it only the one shot?
 
Greg M said:
If fouls lose a ball, does the incoming player also have two visits like in regular blackball, or is it only the one shot?
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I'd play it either way till I have a favorite, that is, the first shot doesn't have to pot to shoot again?
Feels ugly for just a bad hit, certainly worthy penalty for a scratch.
jviss said:
I have no idea what you're talking about, and what those things on the table are.
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...ummm, game changers?


:) 4ball racks.
 
yep, something to do.
getting these different looks has its challenge for the break, after that it's the usual scheming.

Gotta pucker up a little hot on blacke' if you want to shoot again,
I suppose you could open with a snooker leave on the break,
is there a roll-out/push-out in black ball, the original version?

some more looks,
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Me thinking the 1/2 of a win does not fit the scheme when their are sides of the game unlike the 9 and 10 ball do.
No push out
Play what you make with the opening break shot on black.

If I win the call tonight I'll be giving this a go. news at 11:00
 
[11 O'clock Somewhere News Bulletin ]

IT PLAYS!
Honest Breaks Of Luck has a home.

Out of 2 races too 4, not sure if there was any 2 rack set ups alike, had clusters in the center, ends and singles spread out from head too foot.
Noticed that there wasn't any solid attempts to pot on a opening break with singles (no 2 ball clusters) rack set up.
fair amount of snookery was had for opponents' practicing repotting purposes.
Innings would start out with a pot finishing with a little break out on a cluster.
The house made it to the hill once, I Be Back...
 
Me thinking points are back.

one reason to pot opponent's balls?
So to shorten the length of possible runs, they have value - the longer the run within one inning, not any different than tracking points in snooker.

Also, gives pause as to when to snooker opponent. Shooter may be thinking intentional fouls for ball spots...? ...this isn't 1P.

AND, with demand for drills,
of course there is a drill game within this format
 
Dan_B said:
Me thinking points are back.

one reason to pot opponent's balls?
So to shorten the length of possible runs, they have value - the longer the run within one inning, not any different than tracking points in snooker.

Also, gives pause as to when to snooker opponent. Shooter may be thinking intentional fouls for ball spots...? ...this isn't 1P.

AND, with demand for drills,
of course there is a drill game within this format
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isn't potting opponents ball a foul in english 8-ball? meaning even carom och combination
 
skogstokig said:
isn't potting opponents ball a foul in english 8-ball? meaning even carom och combination
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Not if you hit your own ball first and pot both balls. It's known as a "skillshot" in blackball rules, and it only applies to this ruleset. If it were WEPF world rules, it would be a foul.
 
I get the 'it doesn't seem right' to pot opponents' ball for continuing the run and I'm mindful why, the intent of, the origin for the game of blackball.

...with demon swatters anonymous having little too no impact, I'm left with having found myself coming to the table, a bigger table, looking for answers and intrigue.

Why can it not be determined before the break who's who's? ...before the break who is RED and who is Yellow. A pub/house vs. pub/house scenario where the host is YELLOW (inviting) and the invited are RED (challenger).

Some more formulation is needed, requiring more table time... I can do it...
...like proofing the penalty, more like a cost factor for potting the 'off' to continue a run.

should the house win the toss tonight...

...me thinking, the 'on' is on a run, up to 3 pots in row, thinking hummm... there's a shot, potting an 'off ' with a legal "on" needs to consider that the points on the fourth pot is worth 4 points, those 4 points would go to the 'off ' position and the run continues...
 
I'm liking the scoring of runs, per inning(visit) basic stuff, first pot is for 1pt, 2nd pot worth 2pt = 3pt's, 3rd potted ball in a row continuing the run is 3 pts totaling = 6pts.

1 is 1pt, 2 ball run is 3pts, 3 pots is 6pt, 4 pots is 10pts, 5 ball run is worth 15, 6 pots is 21 with a 7 ball run earning 28 points, capturing the black is just a win no additional points, and yes, black ball winner needs to have more points than the opponent to gain a whole skin. shoot'm up...

of course had to solve a easy to score handy way to log a game...
yep, the ol' cushion counter.

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ummm,
not much comes to mind...
...well, other than, for the faint of heart,
staying with the basics.
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..unless you're wanting another aside on whom has the best run within a rack, scheme of things?
 
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