black fiber rings

[BHQ]

this sounds really dumb,
but i put a cue together prolly 3 or 4 months ago
now i have to make a matched jumpbreak for it
i swear that i put .015" black rings in it, i even had it written down on the sketch of cue that i used 15's
but when i mic it they are almost .030" , 28 or 29
question is, do they sometimes "spread"/rollover, when the router hits them????​

 

[JoeyInCali]

First of all, I'd avoid using one thicker than 15 thou.
Well, they do get crushed by the collar on top if it's hammered in pressfit kind.

 

[Poulos Cues]

this sounds really dumb,
but i put a cue together prolly 3 or 4 months ago
now i have to make a matched jumpbreak for it
i swear that i put .015" black rings in it, i even had it written down on the sketch of cue that i used 15's
but when i mic it they are almost .030" , 28 or 29
question is, do they sometimes "spread"/rollover, when the router hits them????​

I have noticed this on silver rings sometimes as well- the "rolling over". This problem usually fixes itself when you sand the cue to size though.

The REAL question is if you measured them BEFORE you put them on. I used to have a problem of believing what I order to always be correct. It should be, however, my machinist friend taught me a long time ago to check everything and make sure it is to spec first BEFORE I do anything to it.

I am sure you do this already though.
Chris

 

[BHQ]

I have noticed this on silver rings sometimes as well- the "rolling over". This problem usually fixes itself when you sand the cue to size though.

The REAL question is if you measured them BEFORE you put them on. I used to have a problem of believing what I order to always be correct. It should be, however, my machinist friend taught me a long time ago to check everything and make sure it is to spec first BEFORE I do anything to it.

I am sure you do this already though.
Chris

i think they are 30's.
i measured every ring on the cue, they are all the same,28 to29ish.
i measured them on another cue, same stage, final turned,
that I KNOW for certain has 15's
these are definitely 30's
i must have been running low on 15's or something or changed my mind, god only knows!!!!

 

[cutter]

Hey could be worse, I did a cue and had one 30 sneak in among some 15's.
Sure looked funny the next day when I turned the epoxy off. Fortuneately is wasn't at the wrap, so only had to take off the joint collar to fix it, but after that, I look alot closer at a pile of rings.

 

[BHQ]

Hey could be worse, I did a cue and had one 30 sneak in among some 15's.
Sure looked funny the next day when I turned the epoxy off. Fortuneately is wasn't at the wrap, so only had to take off the joint collar to fix it, but after that, I look alot closer at a pile of rings.

been there done that.
and it WAS at the wrap

 

[BHQ]

I have noticed this on silver rings sometimes as well- . This problem usually fixes itself when you sand the cue to size though.

The REAL question is if you measured them BEFORE you put them on. I used to have a problem of believing what I order to always be correct. It should be, however, my machinist friend taught me a long time ago to check everything and make sure it is to spec first BEFORE I do anything to it.

I am sure you do this already though.
Chris

the "rolling over"

i've had that happen too.
i don't know if there is a better way to keep that from happening,
but, hell we all know i'll try just about anything once
i go back in and cut rings down a few thou ,
coming at them from outside of ring towards the middle,
then switch around to other direction cutter and do the same on the other side of ring
then sand them smooth
seems to work ok, but NOT always
kinda makes me wonder about the hardness of each ring maybe being different???
i dunno

 

[Poulos Cues]

been there done that.
and it WAS at the wrap

What, you couldn't hide the .015 under the wrap?
Just demand that it is YOU and YOU only that re-wraps that cue due to the fact that you use a proprietory glueing process and press method that you have developed, to be far superior to anything that has ever been done before, and that you may one day decide to sell it to us cuemakers at a premium because we are all in awe!!!


(jus' trying to be a little funny-- is it working here?)

 

[BHQ]

What, you couldn't hide the .015 under the wrap?
Just demand that it is YOU and YOU only that re-wraps that cue due to the fact that you use a proprietory glueing process and press method that you have developed, to be far superior to anything that has ever been done before, and that you may one day decide to sell it to us cuemakers at a premium because we are all in awe!!!


(jus' trying to be a little funny-- is it working here?)

 

[Poulos Cues]

the "rolling over"

i've had that happen too.
i don't know if there is a better way to keep that from happening,
but, hell we all know i'll try just about anything once
i go back in and cut rings down a few thou ,
coming at them from outside of ring towards the middle,
then switch around to other direction cutter and do the same on the other side of ring
then sand them smooth
seems to work ok, but NOT always
kinda makes me wonder about the hardness of each ring maybe being different???
i dunno

You are using a router to trim your rings down..right??
I try not to have too much of the ring sticking out past the ones on both sides of it, I mean, I try to make all my rings the same "oversized" od when they go on, I think of it as added insurance in hopes to not shatter any of them when turing them down to size....

 

[BHQ]

You are using a router to trim your rings down..right??
I try not to have too much of the ring sticking out past the ones on both sides of it, I mean, I try to make all my rings the same "oversized" od when they go on, I think of it as added insurance in hopes to not shatter any of them when turing them down....

yes. i then trim the rings in very light passes just to get them close to the same diameter of wood or even a little bit under