Black Phenolic forearm and butt - seeking input/review

Hidy Ho

Missed 4 rail hanger!!!
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I know Corsair and Zylr made cues using black phenolic forearm and butt sleeve. I guess the material made the cue a bit heavy for modern era (20+ oz).

I wanted to get some feedback from cue makers and experts on cues made from this material.
 
The black phenolic Zylr and Corsair used were the old rolled paper phenolic.
They don't make them anymore. The ones made now look ugly when turned. The old ones loooked like they had curls in them and were not pitty like the new one.
You can get the cue down to 19 oz with maple core and titanium pin.
The one Zylr made we test shot at a pool hall one time had rosewood core. It hit a ton and a half. He sold the last one for about double what he gets for his regular cues b/c the material is extinct.
 
Thanks Joey!!!

I, being a lameman .. I mean layman, didn't even think about the phenolic being cored. But I guess that makes sense to keep the weight down.

So when a cue is cored, I guess the wood used to to core the phenolic would play a major role in how the cue hits?

The new phenolic .. is the difference mostly in the looks? I do remember Roger telling me that new stuff ain't good as the old.
 
Jazz said:
Thanks Joey!!!

I, being a lameman .. I mean layman, didn't even think about the phenolic being cored. But I guess that makes sense to keep the weight down.

So when a cue is cored, I guess the wood used to to core the phenolic would play a major role in how the cue hits?

The new phenolic .. is the difference mostly in the looks? I do remember Roger telling me that new stuff ain't good as the old.
I have some of the new stuff. Paid good sum for it.
It has white pits in em and no curls. They'd be better off getting stained black after.
The thing is toxic btw. I mean REALLLLLLY toxic.
The new ones aren't as good b/c they are made in some factory in India or China and they make em as fast as they can.:eek:
 
JoeyInCali said:
The black phenolic Zylr and Corsair used were the old rolled paper phenolic.
They don't make them anymore. The ones made now look ugly when turned. The old ones loooked like they had curls in them and were not pitty like the new one.
You can get the cue down to 19 oz with maple core and titanium pin.
The one Zylr made we test shot at a pool hall one time had rosewood core. It hit a ton and a half. He sold the last one for about double what he gets for his regular cues b/c the material is extinct.

Hmmmm..... Here is some of the old black phenolic and look at that. There is a rosewood core right next to it. Looks like it is time to have some fun this weekend.

black1.jpg
 
Murray Tucker said:
Hmmmm..... Here is some of the old black phenolic and look at that. There is a rosewood core right next to it. Looks like it is time to have some fun this weekend.

black1.jpg

Let me know how it turns out!!!!

P.S. I wish I was built like that black phenolic :eek:
 
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