Blew This One Too..........

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DrCue'sProtege

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here's another runout i managed to hose up on the very first shot.

pocketed the '1' Ball on the break, and ended up with this spread. didnt really see any better option than the one i tried. hit the shot with a little low left, came around three rails, and instead of stopping somewhere between the '4' and '9', i went just a little too far and ended up at Point B, being snookered by the '9' Ball by about 1/2 inch.

would any of you guys played this differently?

DCP

p.s. Cue Ball is at Point A, of course.

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I would have played this the same way... three rails. but its a speed shot. you just have to learn from the mistake how to guage the speed next time.

you could try playing it with a little high-inside but you might not get past the six and then you leave a long-table cut shot. hit it with too much of a stroke and you get trapped behind the 5 or the 7. but i like your way the best.
 
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DrCue'sProtege said:
here's another runout i managed to hose up on the very first shot.

pocketed the '1' Ball on the break, and ended up with this spread. didnt really see any better option than the one i tried. hit the shot with a little low left, came around three rails, and instead of stopping somewhere between the '4' and '9', i went just a little too far and ended up at Point B, being snookered by the '9' Ball by about 1/2 inch.

would any of you guys played this differently?

DCP

p.s. Cue Ball is at Point A, of course.

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No, you basically shot the shot right. 2 things can help 'shorten' up the shot, a little pulling when shooting the 2, or jsut use a little more spin of the cueball will shorten up the shot some.

Did you shoot through the shot with low left, or shoot it more like a draw shot? That can make a big difference in the outcome of the cue ball.
 
pretty much like a draw shot, even though i didnt want to juice the draw. thought if i did i would have shortened up the angle and came too close to the '7' Ball, and fell way short of my intended destination.

i was yelling at Whitey to STOP, SLOW DOWN!
but it kept rolling, just enough to snooker me.
just my luck.........

DCP
 
Instead of "a little" low left, I'd opt for more to avoid coming in behind the 9.

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But it's alright. I've seen Efren make this exact same mistake. In fact I can recall several matches that he's made this mistake, so you're in great company.
 
on this shot you don't need any draw. only outside

DrCue'sProtege said:
pretty much like a draw shot, even though i didnt want to juice the draw. thought if i did i would have shortened up the angle and came too close to the '7' Ball, and fell way short of my intended destination.

i was yelling at Whitey to STOP, SLOW DOWN!
but it kept rolling, just enough to snooker me.
just my luck.........

DCP
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i didnt want to flirt with the side pocket, and i wanted to be sure and miss the '6' Ball. at the time, seemed like a little low left and coming around 3 rails was the logical position play.

so, the cue ball traveled about 15 feet or so, and i missed position by about 1/2 inch. guess that must not be too bad..........

DCP
 
One of the main factors with shots of this type is what part of the pocket you aim for. It can make or break a shot.

Over cut and the c/b goes long, which appears what happened to you. Undercut and it shortens up the angle, which you needed.

Rod
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
here's another runout i managed to hose up on the very first shot.

pocketed the '1' Ball on the break, and ended up with this spread. didnt really see any better option than the one i tried. hit the shot with a little low left, came around three rails, and instead of stopping somewhere between the '4' and '9', i went just a little too far and ended up at Point B, being snookered by the '9' Ball by about 1/2 inch.

would any of you guys played this differently?

DCP

p.s. Cue Ball is at Point A, of course.
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Hi DCP

Here are two possible ways of to get the CB in the green zone:

1, you just have to make a bigger draw shot and hold the CB a little longer.

2, 1 tip below center, this way looks a little easier, but remember to avoid the side pocket :)

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That's definitely understandable...so let's go with your general method of getting position. This is a good way of getting to the 3. But you don't want to take such a wide line for a couple reason...bad speed or a mistroke can cause you to (1) get straight in or almost straight in on the 3, (2) you can scratch, and (3) you can hook yourself.

The difference between a good and bad line here is where you hit the third rail. The reason I'd want to hit higher up on the rail here is if I screw up my speed, I don't hook myself and also I have a smaller chance of getting straight in.

If you missed position by 1/2 inch, it means you were playing it to almost get straight in, which makes it harder to get to the next ball...by hitting around the 2nd diamond, you've got a much better chance of having a nice easy angle to go from the 3 to the 4.

DrCue'sProtege said:
i didnt want to flirt with the side pocket, and i wanted to be sure and miss the '6' Ball. at the time, seemed like a little low left and coming around 3 rails was the logical position play.

so, the cue ball traveled about 15 feet or so, and i missed position by about 1/2 inch. guess that must not be too bad..........

DCP
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guess i need to clarify here.
when i say i missed position by 1/2 inch, what i mean is i missed having a shot by 1/2 inch. guess there's a difference.

DCP
 
Like McDoggit said, you took the wrong line. But I suspect you knew that already. This is an example of what, to me, is the most common mistake in pool. Over running a shot because you hit it too easily. You said you were trying to miss the 7, and you probably let up on your stroke - causing the cueball to go too long and overrun position. Simply hitting it harder would likely keep you on the right line and leave you with perfect position.

It looks like you might could've just gone one rail straight up on the 2-ball side of the 7 and 3.

unknownpro
 
This shot I would try to make the cue ball hit above the side pocket and go in between the 4 and the 8. However then theres the risk of the scratch in the side, which with me is likely.
 
DCP,

Like Egg first mentioned, you took the more complicated, wrong position route.

Personally, I would have played it like Egg, but used draw with no side spin to land in the middle of the head rail.

With all these posts, maybe you should seek out a better instructor than Dr. Cue?

PS-If you're still looking for the CB in the WEI table, it's located next to the 15 ball. Just drag and click, it's there, as 20 other posters have mentioned before...


Eric
 
i can see the cueball.
i drag it to where i want it.
but it never shows up.
once i post the cue ball ends up next to the 15 ball for some reason.

DCP
 
I like the approach that you took... except I believe that you understroked the shot.

If you hit hard enuf to go 4 rails here, the cb hardly comes off the 4th rail... and if your line would have taken you into the 9-ball, you'd likely would have come out alright for a shot on the 3.

Next time you're shooting, try the same shot a couple of different ways... each way 5 times... and see which way yields the highest % for best position.
 
I may be off base here but I after looking at all your posts and grievences over position play, I think you are always trying to get dead nuts perfect position all the time and you end up getting snookered. There are many areas on the table that the three ball could be made from. Anywhere in the center of the table would be fine. Yes it would be a tougher shot but at least you would have one to continue your run with. JMO
 
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