BNR on 15 ball rotation?

u12armresl

u12armresl

One Pocket back cutter
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How big would a weekly pot get on a bar table for a BNR where you had to run the entire rack in rotation?

I see BRN in the thousands per ball, and that is for 10 ball.
 
We run a 10 ball pot. I don’t know how many tickets people would buy if it was full rack. We have very liberal rules though, so maybe it wouldn’t matter much.
 
It would happen more often than you think on a valley bar table. I’m nowhere near world class, maybe not even a shortstop depending on your definition but I have roasted people giving me 15:1 against it per game on several occasions. A good breaker can make 3-4 balls once in awhile and it’s a completely different deal then.

Change it to a diamond 7’ with procut pockets and yeah it’ll take a heap of chances to complete one unless we’re talking about only 770+ guys.

But ultimately I doubt you sell many tickets unless you pay per ball like maybe 3-5% per ball and you get the whole thing if you run them all.
 
Frosty said:
He’s actually a great guy and one of the most fierce players I’ve ever seen for the cash in action.
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Had the pleasure of having dinner with him once and I found him to be a truly deep thinker and very forthcoming with some highly nuanced things that have helped me see some things in the game that were hidden for years prior. Great player, yes, but he seems like an awesome guy too.
 
Zerksies said:
In a bar :ROFLMAO: billions
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Agree. The idea in these B-n-R deals is for someone to win big. Having to run 15 imo is a joke. Sure the pot gets big but how often does it happen? Just seems to me like less people would play, defeating the purpose of having the game in the first place. LOTS of places have 10b games for a reason, its popular.
 
u12armresl said:
How big would a weekly pot get on a bar table for a BNR where you had to run the entire rack in rotation?

I see BRN in the thousands per ball, and that is for 10 ball.
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My bet is that the rack would never be completed (ASSUMING that you lose all the money you have potentially earned if you miss a ball).

Bear with me a second...

We have a huge (over $20k) BnR 10-ball at my pool hall. Guys buy hundreds of dollars of tickets, so the money going out each week is nearly replaced with the new money from raffle tickets sold. Players make money per ball, at an increasing % per ball, and can declare they are finished at any time and pocket the money earned. If the miss, they get zero dollars.

In each run you have that moment when the shooter has earned so much money that they don't want to risk it by attempting the fairly difficult shot they are looking at. In fact, there is typically a shot that they would be nuts to take because the money left to earn does not merit risking what they have potentially pocketed. Frequently that shot is immediately after the break. (They make a ball or two on the break, look at the one ball, and say, "I'm done.")

(I am talking about a BnR on a 9' Diamond with tight pockets.)

All of that would be exacerbated by trying to run 15 balls in rotation.

How could a 15-ball rotation run be completed?

1) You only earn money if you complete the run. There is no "per ball" money. (I admit that is not likely to be a thing, very few people would bother to invest in buying tickets, so it is just a bad idea.)

2) You so significantly stagger the money-per-ball that all the incentive is in getting to the later balls.

3) You offer 50% of the money on a per-ball scale (lower % for early balls, increasing as you go) and the other 50% is on the last ball (completing the run).
 
garczar said:
Agree. The idea in these B-n-R deals is for someone to win big. Having to run 15 imo is a joke. Sure the pot gets big but how often does it happen? Just seems to me like less people would play, defeating the purpose of having the game in the first place. LOTS of places have 10b games for a reason, its popular.
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I assume they'll pay out on a per ball basis, so it's likely that a few bucks will go out most weeks, but the net pot is gonna keep going up.

Eventually there will be enough in there that the per ball payout will be driving participation on its own. Nobody's turning their nose up at a chance to break a full rack for $1,000 a ball even without much chance to continue beyond whatever they get on the break...
 
DieselPete said:
My bet is that the rack would never be completed (ASSUMING that you lose all the money you have potentially earned if you miss a ball).

Bear with me a second...

We have a huge (over $20k) BnR 10-ball at my pool hall. Guys buy hundreds of dollars of tickets, so the money going out each week is nearly replaced with the new money from raffle tickets sold. Players make money per ball, at an increasing % per ball, and can declare they are finished at any time and pocket the money earned. If the miss, they get zero dollars.

In each run you have that moment when the shooter has earned so much money that they don't want to risk it by attempting the fairly difficult shot they are looking at. In fact, there is typically a shot that they would be nuts to take because the money left to earn does not merit risking what they have potentially pocketed. Frequently that shot is immediately after the break. (They make a ball or two on the break, look at the one ball, and say, "I'm done.")

(I am talking about a BnR on a 9' Diamond with tight pockets.)

All of that would be exacerbated by trying to run 15 balls in rotation.

How could a 15-ball rotation run be completed?

1) You only earn money if you complete the run. There is no "per ball" money. (I admit that is not likely to be a thing, very few people would bother to invest in buying tickets, so it is just a bad idea.)

2) You so significantly stagger the money-per-ball that all the incentive is in getting to the later balls.

3) You offer 50% of the money on a per-ball scale (lower % for early balls, increasing as you go) and the other 50% is on the last ball (completing the run).
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Who are these players? I had 8 break and runs in league ten ball in one session and I'm only a 600 fargo. Seems weird.
 
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