Brass *veneers*... possible?

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I'm in the process of designing a new cue for myself and have a design in mind that features red points (either red amboyna or bloodwood) in a black ebony forearm along with bloodwood/brass rings and with a brass collars... and I'm wondering if it is possible to have a thin brass outline on each point.

Is this possible? If so, costly?... or not?

I'll ask my cuemaker as well but I won't have a chance to talk to him until this evening (at the earliest).

TIA for any help. :)
 
> I once saw a super nice Mottey,gray stained birdseye,ivory joint and trim with ebony points that had either a super highly polished brass or gold veneer. My guess is that it was some form of the wire work done by Joe Gold and several others. If it was a true veneer,that would make 2 per point,and that much silver,gold,or brass in the front of a cue would make it so heavy it would be unplayable,god forbid if that was a recut point,where a solid point is re-mitered down to almost nothing,only to have another point inlayed on top and cut again. If someone else knows more about this,please say so. Tommy D.
 
I did something real similar recently. Striped ebony with cocobolo points and brass outlines.
 

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Thanks Sheldon... so it's possible... and very attractive when finished. ;)

Could you comment on the weight factor, the cost factor and would you explain the manufacturing process (so a non-cue maker like myself might understand it to the point of explaining it to my cue maker)?

And out of curiousity, to what depth is the brass inlaid?... and what width did you make it? It looks like 0.060" or so in width. And were you happy with your choice of width?

I'd like mine to be thin... like maybe 0.030" - 0.040" or so.
 
The brass is .031 thick, and didn't add much weight. I'm guessing around half an ounce or so over conventional materials. The depth of the brass averages about 80 or 90 thousandths.
 
Sheldon said:
The brass is .031 thick, and didn't add much weight. I'm guessing around half an ounce or so over conventional materials. The depth of the brass averages about 80 or 90 thousandths.
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Wow, .031" huh?... quite a bit thinner than I thought. That makes me think that I would want no more than .020"... maybe .015"... to get more the look of a thin veneer rather than an outline on the tall points of my new cue.

Sheldon - You didn't mention the process. Would you comment on that?

Thanks and best regards, cigardave.
 
Inlay brass strips into black micarta-cut out the pieces and inlay them into the cue. :D
 
Sheldon said:
Inlay brass strips into black micarta-cut out the pieces and inlay them into the cue. :D
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So you end up with a very thin black micarta border on both sides of the brass?

Guess that I didn't pick up on that when first viewing your close-ups... but now I do.

Thanks again Sheldon.
 
points ...

I have seen a cue done by Bob Owens of Shurtz Custom Cues
that had gold lined points (not full length, just partial), and
it looked really sharp. Something I stored in the back of my
mind for the future ... lol
 
cigardave said:
So you end up with a very thin black micarta border on both sides of the brass?
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You could try to sandwich a thick brass foil between two black veneers, if you are looking for a fine brass line. Are you looking to have "V" bottom or flat bottom points?

Tracy
 
RSB-Refugee said:
You could try to sandwich a thick brass foil between two black veneers, if you are looking for a fine brass line. Are you looking to have "V" bottom or flat bottom points?

Tracy
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I believe that my cue maker put "V" bottom points in my last cue but, not being a cue maker, I couldn't swear that that is the case. I expect he would do the same for this next one.

Just this AM, I e-mailed him a link to this thread to get his reaction to my suggestion for brass outlines and for him to see and read about what Sheldon has done, how it looks and how Sheldon did it... but it's a shop e-mail account that I sent it to and he's got a fulltime day job that he's currently at. Perhaps I'll see a response tomorrow AM.

Does your suggestion... "You could try to sandwich a thick brass foil between two black veneers"... depend on which type of point he builds?

If so, which one does it coincide with?

TIA.
 
cigardave said:
Does your suggestion... "You could try to sandwich a thick brass foil between two black veneers"... depend on which type of point he builds?
If so, which one does it coincide with?
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You could use that method with either type of point. If doing V-points that would be just about the ONLY way to.
 
Sheldon said:
You could use that method with either type of point. If doing V-points that would be just about the ONLY way to.
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Yep, what he said. I think the ones Sheldon did, look awesome. With the other method you would have to have a very sharp tool. I said you could try it, because I am not sure if you would like it as well. You ought to just get Sheldon to build it for you. ;)

Tracy
 
""You ought to just get Sheldon to build it for you."

That could be an option... at least from my side. :)

But first, I need to see if my cue maker has done something like this before (I've got my doubts)... and if not, will he try it for me... or would that be cost prohibitive.
 
cigardave said:
""You ought to just get Sheldon to build it for you."

That could be an option... at least from my side. :)
But first, I need to see if my cue maker has done something like this before (I've got my doubts)... and if not, will he try it for me... or would that be cost prohibitive.
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Tell him he needs to push his boundaries, and you are willing to help him do it, but ordering the cue. Tell him he can give you a killer deal on it, and you will not complain. :D
 
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