Break and Run Percentages

Terry Ardeno said:
Jim,
Right you are also on the "breaker actually lost slightly more than they won" remark.
Who was it in the booth that said their match was hill-hill and even though it was their break, they offered the break to their opponant, who then declined? Can you remember who said that?
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I may be thinking of a different match, but I have an Accu-Stats DVD where Danny DiLiberto states something to the effect of, winner break doesn't actually mean that the winner has to break; it means that the winner chooses who breaks. Ever since I heard that, I have been curious for more information, because I don't think that today's WPA rules give the winner the option to pass on the break.

Anyway, he then goes on to say that in one game of a tournament match, Pat Flemming passed the break on to his opponent.

I can't remember which DVD that was, but if I happen to watch that one again, I'll let you know.
 
Its all about the wing ball if you're talking nine ball.

Nick Varner and Mike Sigel played a match and the wing ball went in over 20 times in a row. Mike scratched on the hill (score 12-10) and asked if he could offer Nick two games for a chance to break hill-hill. They didn't allow it. I can't remember exactly what match it is; around 1989-1992 I'm guessing.

If the wing ball isn't dead, the break isn't much of an advantage most times.

Of course, the guys losing to John Schmidt when he recently ran two 7 packs on them might feel otherwise...
 
Just a little add on to your phrasing...

If the pockets are big, it makes it easier for the weaker player to make balls and win, assuming he gets to the table... Agreed...

If they are too tight, the stronger player starts turning over the table more... Also agreed.
Yet, just because the opponent (weaker player) gets to shoot more, doesn't mean he's going to win more. This is especially true, since the pockets are tighter for the weaker player as well. So not only is he going to miss the shots where he is way off, but he'll also miss all those shots that are close and didn't go in, but would've been close enough on the looser table.

So, as the stronger player, if you have the capability to handle the tighter pockets, which most of them do, especially at that level, then you can take advantage of the situation. While the opponent, who was already weaker and thus less likely to run-out, will see his game deteriorate even more. The weaker player may not be as smart as the stronger one, so he may not even understand why he's missing more. Then he may crack and fall apart as a result. And in addition, when it comes to making calculations of how likely the weaker player will be to make the shot with the tighter pockets, that weaker player will be more likely to make erroneous judgements regarding his and his opponents ability. So, it can add to the pressure mounted against him.
 
Last week on Monday night 8-Ball League my B&R% was 75%.

Last night it was only 25% That was against fellow AZ'er "gotgame" (I think he was sh**racking.)

But its super easy to string 8-Ball racks on a good Valley.
 
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